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NameCaster

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Regged these today!
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NativeIndian.us
NativeIndian.org
NativeIndians.us
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They would be great.....but I know the term that is used more is Native Americans...

But you could still get something out of these....definitely worth more then reg free...;)
 

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Thanks shaggy...I think ;)
Anybody else? Where the hell are all the cheapskates when you need em?

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Sorry NameCaster aka Mudfence

See no value in those names,although NativeIndians.us would
be a good name to develope for historical value.

I have "NativeArt.org" to go with your name.
 

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Originally posted by NameCaster
Regged these today!
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NativeIndian.us
NativeIndian.org
NativeIndians.us
NativeIndians.org

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Thanks dotus, biggedon, DrWho

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NativeIndians.US is your best..alot of potential..you can cover all the tribal nations with it...offer it for sell it as a set..$100-$200.


I was fortunate to reg and purchase these.. ..

Apaches.us
Dakotas.us
Cherokees.us
 

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Originally posted by NameCaster
Regged these today!
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NativeIndian.us
NativeIndian.org
NativeIndians.us
NativeIndians.org

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Hey Namecaster, with all due respect, I'm afraid your name is still mud on these selections. Using them for a national site for Native Americans would be a mistake and even could be considered a slight by any of the Tribes. So don't waste your money.

Before suggesting usage of Tribal names by anyone, it would be best to do a little research. For example, I am of partial Native American decent. We prefer the name "Lakota" even though most refer to us as "Sioux" Indians. Sioux is the chopped off end of the French spelling of an Ojibwa term for the "Sioux", in French spelling Nadouessioux. The truncation process was common in early colonial French slang names for native peoples.

The names above may be more appropriate for East Indian (India)usage. I'd suggest you do a little more research before trying to make that work as well. The word Indian isn't even considered politically correct as it originated from the belief held by Columbus that the lands he discovered were part of Asia.

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Thanks bidawinner

"Myrtle Beach Bikeweek!"
Stocdoctor, with all due respect, I'm afraid your spandex my be to tight. :D
 

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Originally posted by NameCaster
Thanks bidawinner

"Myrtle Beach Bikeweek!"
Stocdoctor, with all due respect, I'm afraid your spandex my be to tight. :D

Namecaster

The comment I made about mud just referred to your previous name, and was not meant to be an insult. I apologize if it was taken wrong. I have appreciated your appraisal work and given you compliments on past threads.

Can you tell me why the spandex thing above was made? I tried to give you some meaningful information in response to your request for an appraisal or "comments". In fact it could be the best advice you've been given on this thread, saving you from spending more money on development of some unsound ideas that may raise the ire of the peoples that your names were intended to cover. That is a good thing, was meant to help you, and not something that would justify some kind of attack. If I unknowningly regged something that could be considered insulting to some groups, I would sure appreciate being notified of it, and wouldn't insult the messenger. Doc
 

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Stocdoctor, I appreciate your thoughts.
Although I don't really agree I respect your opinion.
I have a few freinds that are Native American Indian from the muckleshoot tribe. They didn't take offense to the name.
I'll definetely take what your saying into consideration.

The thing about the spandex was a joke :D
(bike riding, etc)
I knew you were joking about the mud thing. I was just dishing back at you. Didn't mean for you to take any offense.

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Oh I get it. Mrytle Beach Bikeweek is for Bikers not bicyclists. I didn't understand what you meant about the spandex thing, but I think you meant the little shorts worn by people riding bicycles. Most hardcore Bikers would get their back up real fast if anyone suggested they wear spandex, and that's exactly how I took it.

On your friends, most Native Americans are a gentle people, and used to being called "Indians" without putting up much of a stink. Not that most like it though. In your best interest, I'd suggest they take you to a pow-wow and ask a few of the participating group what they think. Most will not give you any kind of hard time, but I think the usage of a slang term on a website would not be well received by them. Of course the number of Native Americans that would be visiting the site would probably be insignificant, so adding more to the mess probably wouldn't matter anyway huh? Taking our heritage so lightly, makes us a little sad though. Doc
 

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Originally posted by Stocdoctor


Hey Namecaster, with all due respect, I'm afraid your name is still mud on these selections. Using them for a national site for Native Americans would be a mistake and even could be considered a slight by any of the Tribes. So don't waste your money.

Before suggesting usage of Tribal names by anyone, it would be best to do a little research. For example, I am of partial Native American decent. We prefer the name "Lakota" even though most refer to us as "Sioux" Indians. Sioux is the chopped off end of the French spelling of an Ojibwa term for the "Sioux", in French spelling Nadouessioux. The truncation process was common in early colonial French slang names for native peoples.

The names above may be more appropriate for East Indian (India)usage. I'd suggest you do a little more research before trying to make that work as well. The word Indian isn't even considered politically correct as it originated from the belief held by Columbus that the lands he discovered were part of Asia.

Doc


Stoc..I disagree with you...for starters I am 1/4 Cherokee INDIAN...There are /were of 100 INDIAN tribes in the US...!!!
http://www.americanwest.com/pages/indrank.htm


To say that they are /were "gentle people" is simply not true...they are no more "gentle" than any other people.

They fought , killed each other including women and children , raped each others women, stole from each other for hundreds of years !.. same as most people of the earth .

The Apaches were well known..

http://southwest.library.arizona.edu/reaz/body.1_div.15.html

Fromthe shawnee ..."It was a great event when a warrior husband returned from a raid with an iron kettle or camp skillet"
Now I wonder who's skillet it was they took..and who did they kill for a skillet ? !

http://www.firstcapitalohio.com/shawnee.html


I am also an 8th generational grandson of Daniel Boone and son Nathan Boone. Many "pioneers" were simply slaughtered by these "peaceful" people !


"In December, however, they were attacked by Indians. Boone and a companion were captured; and when they escaped they found their camp broken up, and the rest of the party scattered and gone home. About this time they were joined by Squire Boone, the brother of the great hunter, and himself a woodsman of but little less skill, together with another adventurer; the two had traveled through the immense wilderness, partly to explore it and partly with the hope of finding the original adventurers, which they finally succeeded in doing more by good luck than design. Soon afterward Boone's companion in his first short captivity was again surprized by the Indians, and this time was slain--the first of the thousands of human beings with whose life-blood Kentucky was bought. The attack was entirely unprovoked. The Indians had wantonly shed the first blood. The land belonged to no one tribe, but was hunted over by all, each feeling jealous of every other intruder; they attacked the whites, not because the whites had wronged them, but because their invariable policy was to kill any strangers on any grounds over which they themselves ever hunted, no matter what man had the best right thereto. The Kentucky hunters were promptly taught that in this no-man's land, teeming with game and lacking even a solitary human habitation, every Indian must be regarded as a foe."

by Theodore Roosevelt

Daniel had 2 sons killed by indians..

http://www.pastseeker.com/boone/children/sons-ja-is-wi/lostsons.shtml

And Daughter Jemina and 2 friends was kidnaped by Indians, but was rescued by her father..

Daniel Boone himself was kidnaped by the shawnee.. was held for 5 months before he finally escaped.. He was officially adopted by Chief Blackfish as a son and In that time he thought of Chief Blackfish and family as a second family....he drew close to them and respected them but always understood they would kill him if they caught him trying to escape..(nice parents ! :laugh:)

(this is just in my family !)


The facts are people are people white, red, black tan..we have many great qualities and many horrific qualities..We love our neighbors..we kill our neighbors..

"Indian" is only a INCLUSIVE description of a GROUP peoples ..the same as calling a group of people "European" even though some are Brits. some Irish, some polish etc... ..

Now if you are talking about a specific TRIBEs ...then yes you speak of that tribe..Shawnee, Delaware, Cherokee etc..

Thats why I think his domain works..anyone searching "Native Indian" and many do..

http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/

can then be taken to specifiic tribes..
NativeIndians.US/Apaches.htm , NativeIndians.US/Cherokee.htm etc...

The Native Indians .."all inclusive" ... Politically Correct ? ..
Do we really need to go there..

Here..this guy sums it up pretty well.. a little crude but basically on target IMO...

http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/1521/carlin_pclanguage3.html
 

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Thanks for all the great info and links bidawinner :)

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Hey Bid
Some of the information in the links you supplied is correct, while a lot of it is conflicting, outdated, opinionated and insulting garbage.

For example:

*Your first link of the tribe list has the "Sioux" tribe listed as the fourth largest. I am of "Lakota" heritage and that is the correct name, as pointed out in my previous post. Obviously the table wasn't composed by a member of any of the tribes listed.

* I agree that the tribes of yesteryear fought amongst themselves as do contries of today. My comment about them being a "gentle people" today, was not a reference to the many battles fought during the times referenced by your links. Taking quotes from Teddy Rosevelt or writings on these battles from the perspective of the people back then who were pushing the tribes into "reservations" presents a one-sided view. To quote from your links: "A volume would be required to give an account of the long and bloody struggle, of the lonely ambush, the midnight attack, the hand-to-hand encounter, the shrieks of women and the cries of children, the flames of burning dwellings, and the fiendish yells of the infuriated savages" The reference to the tribes as "savages" should be a clue as to who is writing your accounts.

* Your last link (I agree is crude) is written by a complete idiot and filled with his personal opinions, mis-quotes and outright bull. For example, from your link he writes "If you'd leave the classroom once in a while, you'd find that most Indians are insulted by the term Native American. The American Indian Movement will tell you that if you ask them." That's just wrong. Obviously, the writer didn't happen to ask them. This is a quote from the AIM website and their National Coalition on Racism in Sports and Media. " This war, no longer on battlefields is now being fought in the courtrooms, corporation boardrooms, and classrooms over the appropriation of Native American names, spiritual and cultural symbols by professional sports, Hollywood, schools, and universities. The issue for us is the right to self identification and self determination this is the fight of the National Coalition on Racism in Sports and the Media." You'll note the reference to "Native Americans" in reference to themselves.
I lived approximately 6 blocks away from the AIM headquarters in Minneapolis and have attended events and meetings there over many years. As in many political groups, there are many tribal organizations that do not agree with AIM in the choice of the use of their title and a lot of their actions. But for the writer of your link, to make that "Native American" comment should give you some idea of how much credibility he has.
 

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Bid One more note. The last link you supplied was written by "fan" of George Carlin from one of his comedy skits on "Politically correct language".

"I think it's the duty of the comedian to find out where
the line is drawn and cross it deliberately."

~ George Carlin (on A&E Biography)

I like George Carlin, but I wouldn't take his statements seriously on Native American history.
 

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Hey Bid
Some of the information in the links you supplied is correct, while a lot of it is conflicting, outdated, opinionated and insulting garbage.

For example:

*Your first link of the tribe list has the "Sioux" tribe listed as the fourth largest. I am of "Lakota" heritage and that is the correct name, as pointed out in my previous post. Obviously the table wasn't composed by a member of any of the tribes listed.


* I agree that the tribes of yesteryear fought amongst themselves as do contries of today. My comment about them being a "gentle people" today, was not a reference to the many battles fought during the times referenced by your links. Taking quotes from Teddy Rosevelt or writings on these battles from the perspective of the people back then who were pushing the tribes into "reservations" presents a one-sided view. To quote from your links: "A volume would be required to give an account of the long and bloody struggle, of the lonely ambush, the midnight attack, the hand-to-hand encounter, the shrieks of women and the cries of children, the flames of burning dwellings, and the fiendish yells of the infuriated savages" The reference to the tribes as "savages" should be a clue as to who is writing your accounts.

THEY WERE SAVAGES...!!!!people who RAID a farm house kill everyone inside and take their scapls ARE SAVAGES....SAVAGES SAVAGES SAVAGES..get that through yopur head ..your "peaceful" people committed tens of thosands of these atrocities..that the REAL history!

* Your last link (I agree is crude) is written by a complete idiot and filled with his personal opinions, mis-quotes and outright bull. For example, from your link he writes "If you'd leave the classroom once in a while, you'd find that most Indians are insulted by the term Native American. The American Indian Movement will tell you that if you ask them." That's just wrong. Obviously, the writer didn't happen to ask them. This is a quote from the AIM website and their National Coalition on Racism in Sports and Media. " This war, no longer on battlefields is now being fought in the courtrooms, corporation boardrooms, and classrooms over the appropriation of Native American names, spiritual and cultural symbols by professional sports, Hollywood, schools, and universities. The issue for us is the right to self identification and self determination this is the fight of the National Coalition on Racism in Sports and the Media." You'll note the reference to "Native Americans" in reference to themselves.
I lived approximately 6 blocks away from the AIM headquarters in Minneapolis and have attended events and meetings there over many years. As in many political groups, there are many tribal organizations that do not agree with AIM in the choice of the use of their title and a lot of their actions. But for the writer of your link, to make that "Native American" comment should give you some idea of how much credibility he has.

Whatever ..you are wrong Stoc..

My family was "ambushed" many times...by these peaceful people.. long before there was a "push" to the reservations..

The idea that they are "peacful" now as apposed to generations agoi is ludicrous..And Bellecourt is one of the biggect racist and instigators of violence around..I dont need The BS of his organization to tell me about the history of the American Indians..

MOST american Indians..the massess of the american Indian have no problem and ARE proud of being called Indian..dont go ranting about some "Indian organizations" that THINK they represent the American Indian...

I have absolutely no repect for AIM..one of the most RACIST organizations around.
http://www.aimovement.org/ggc/index.html

The want to go backwards..they INSTIGATE violence..theyre whole purpose is is to try and reclaim lands they lost in war and "resititution...

On elast thing..if the word Indian is so revolting then why the hell does the very movenment AIMK take it's name .. American INDIAN Movement ! ..

Enough of the nonsense..INDIAN is a beautiful name..that represents by the very word INCUSIVE of all tribes..

To bring up the National Coalition on Raciams in sports is doing nothing more than displaying your allegiance to a ONE sided view of an organization ..NOT A PEOPLE..


By the way..12 years ago I lived near Chicago and Lake ..over on Portland..why doesnt AIM use there resource to battle the BOOZE problem ...Oh waiot..I had better not go there thats not politically correct to discuss the BOOZE problem is it.

Quit targeting the white man for all it's problems and act like men for a change and take care of there families..

Here is a typical response of tribes to THEIR alchohol problesms..

http://imdiversity.com/Article_Detail.asp?Article_ID=6408

BTW..I think it is DISGUTING that they are operating of the INdians booze problem.. My POINT is no one is forcing them to walk/drive over and sitting around and booze all day..

People have to take personal reponsibility and quit blaming everyone else...in other words as a PEOPLE..most tribes need to grow up and act like adults instead of whinning that everything is the white mans fault..
 

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Here is your supporters of the National Coalition odf Raciam in Sports..

Communist ! :laugh:

"Statement by Minnesota/Dakotas District, Communist Party USA"



http://www.cpminnesota.org/nmissue.htm

Wheny ou read it allit is is reverse Raciams filled with BS..

I have no time for these racist organizations and find it difficult you side wiht this nonsense
 

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Whoa there Bid. I find myself agreeing with a few of your statements, disagreeing with others, and completed confused by other comments.

I never swore allegiance to AIM but merely clarified an error in one of your links. Your original links suggested asking AIM about their adversity to the term "Native Americans" and I merely quoted one of their groups use of the term. That doesn't mean I allign myself with that organization. You brought them into play, not me, and you're getting way off track here with the booze and communist stuff.

I'm amazed at your comment about your being an "8th generational grandson of Daniel Boone" (pretty cool) and at the same time saying you are 1/4 Cherokee and that these "peaceful people" "ambushed" your family many times. So your "Indian" heritage ambushed your "Daniel Boone" heritage, before they were being pushed to reservations? Am I reading that right?

Sounds to me like your family would probably have one hell of an in-house argument going come thanksgiving.

Anyway, lets just say we disagree and leave it at that. You're entitled to your opinion, and I am mine.
 
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