Netsol

[NexSite]

Ok. I could be wrong but netsol appears to be pulling some blatant menuevers lately. This one here got me.

From exody today.
cpdf.com == 2004-09-19 == whois.networksolutions.com == Cr:1997-08-14 == Exp:2005-08-13 == NS1.PENDINGRENEWALDELETION.COM:NS2.PENDINGRENEWALDELETION.COM

Netsol only recently started flopping expiring names server info to the "pending " servers, so this is quite fresh.

Alexa shows cpdf.com having some nice link pop, 364 to be exact, and active pages into 2004 (wayback)

Contact Info for cpdf.com:

Center for Professional Development in Finance
PO Box 11147
Berkeley, CA
94712

US
+1 510 843 6389, Fax: +1 510 843 6390
info@cpdf.com

But todays whois shows
Network Solutions reserves the right to modify these terms at any time.
Registrant:
Search, Ultimate (CPDF-DOM)
GPO Box 7862
null
Central, HK 00000
HK
Domain Name: CPDF.COM
Administrative Contact:
Search, Ultimate (38431730P) dns@ultsearch.com
GPO Box 7862
null
Central, HK 00000
HK
852.25379677 fax: null
Technical Contact:
Network Solutions, LLC. (HOST-ORG) customerservice@networksolutions.com
13200 Woodland Park Drive
Herndon, VA 20171-3025
US
1-888-642-9675 fax: 571-434-4620
Record expires on 13-Aug-2005.
Record created on 14-Aug-1997.
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Retrieved from whois.crsnic.net server[whois,Auth]
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Domain Name: CPDF.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
Name Server: NS1.ULTSEARCH.COM
Name Server: NS2.ULTSEARCH.COM
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Updated Date: 24-sep-2004
Creation Date: 14-aug-1997
Expiration Date: 13-aug-2005
NAME NEVER DROPPED - DELETED

Is netsol giving Ult some kind of option to buy names before they drop??????
The only other scenerio I can see is the owner renewing and selling to ULT but that seems unlikely considering the time frame here.

Opinions?

 

[NexSite]

from exody today

cs-i.com == 2004-09-22 == whois.networksolutions.com == Cr:1997-08-18 == Exp:2005-08-17 == NS1.PENDINGRENEWALDELETION.COM:NS2.PENDINGRENEWALDELETION.COM


Active pages into 2004, alexa link pop 141

whois today

Registrant:
LERMAN, ALEXANDER (CS-I-DOM)
1700 SHATTUCK AVENUE #100
null
BERKELEY, CA 94709
US
Domain Name: CS-I.COM
Administrative Contact:
LERMAN, ALEXANDER (38446541P) ALEXLERMAN@ALEXLERMAN.com
1700 SHATTUCK AVENUE #100
null
BERKELEY, CA 94709
US
+1.8004090600 fax: null
Technical Contact:
Network Solutions, LLC. (HOST-ORG) customerservice@networksolutions.com
13200 Woodland Park Drive
Herndon, VA 20171-3025
US
1-888-642-9675 fax: 571-434-4620
Record expires on 17-Aug-2005.
Record created on 18-Aug-1997.
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Retrieved from whois.crsnic.net server[whois,Auth]
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Domain Name: CS-I.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
Name Server: DNS1.1108.COM
Name Server: DNS2.1108.COM
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Updated Date: 24-sep-2004
Creation Date: 18-aug-1997
Expiration Date: 17-aug-2005


These names ARE NOT DROPPING. So the only way ult and Alex can acquire these names is buying directly from the owner . RIGHT? IM ASKING? Netsol can not sell these names before they drop unless I have been sleeping uder a rock. I hope ult and alex bought these from the previous owner, but it sure seems suspicious that these names went into netsols "expired-pending" status and just jumped back to life in a matter of days. Big money players getting preferential treatment??????? Or am I over reacting. All im really looking for is an answer.

 

[actnow]

Was this a case of it being auctioned off at Snapnames?

If so, I was curious how they would treat the registration date.

 

[NexSite]

It appears in either case the name didn't go through the usual 65 day drop cycle. Both would have dropped in late october. The reg hold period is supposed to be 30 days, and 30 days redemption. Didn't happen here. Finding more instances of this too as we speak.


mepa.com == 2004-09-19 == whois.networksolutions.com == Cr:1997-08-12 == Exp:2005-08-11 == NS1.PENDINGRENEWALDELETION.COM

Network Solutions reserves the right to modify these terms at any time.
Registrant:
Administrator, Domain (MEPA-DOM)
Box 10518
A.P.O.
Grand Cayman, GC BWI
KY
Domain Name: MEPA.COM
Administrative Contact:
Administrator, Domain (38426798P) admin@nameadmininc.com
Box 10518
A.P.O.
Grand Cayman, GC BWI
KY
345.9465517 fax: null
Technical Contact:
Network Solutions, LLC. (HOST-ORG) customerservice@networksolutions.com
13200 Woodland Park Drive
Herndon, VA 20171-3025
US
1-888-642-9675 fax: 571-434-4620
Record expires on 11-Aug-2005.
Record created on 12-Aug-1997.
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Retrieved from whois.crsnic.net server[whois,Auth]
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Domain Name: MEPA.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
Name Server: NS57.WORLDNIC.COM
Name Server: NS58.WORLDNIC.COM
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Updated Date: 22-sep-2004
Creation Date: 12-aug-1997
Expiration Date: 11-aug-2005

 

[stuff]

Its the new snapnames and NSI agreement. Nsi dosen`t let domain`s drop and snapnames is auctioning them

 

[NexSite]

Yep. It appears that Netsol is assuming ownership of the domain and using snapnames to auction off to the high bidder. I didn't know ICANN allowed this. I wonder if this may also circumvent Googles purging of the links associated with dropping domains.

 

[ExpireGuy]

Yep. It appears that Netsol is assuming ownership of the domain and using snapnames to auction off to the high bidder. I didn't know ICANN allowed this.

Excellent data digging NexSite.
As for ICANN allowing it....I don't believe they meant to, but their inaction at implementing policies are to blame for whats happening. Until the Expired Domain Deletion Policy takes hold on Dec 21.....what you've pointed out will be the norm. But it still doesn't make it right IMO.

 

[Domainut]

36 days from expiration date the auction begins. Many names slipped into auction in the first few days before anyone had a chance to research the entire list and place backorders.

 

[NexSite]

Gee. Did netsol start this practice without notifying domain owners that there will be no redemption grace period? I have a couple names there, no notice. So now you lose your name in 36 days. No real on-hold period or no real redmption period. That outfit is the greediest buch of Pucks I have ever seen. Now they OWN the name you registered before it deletes, and auction it off to the highest bidder. What in the hell is ICANN smoking?

 

[ExpireGuy]

Gee. Did netsol start this practice without notifying domain owners that there will be no redemption grace period? I have a couple names there, no notice. So now you lose your name in 36 days. No real on-hold period or no real redmption period. That outfit is the greediest buch of Pucks I have ever seen. Now they OWN the name you registered before it deletes, and auction it off to the highest bidder. What in the hell is ICANN smoking?

You've just tapped into one of the many flaws from a registrants standpoint as to why this is such an abomidable scenario.
As for what ICANN is smoking.....I wish they would pass some around because their lack of forsight is causing me to get the shakes.....and I'd rather prefer the munchies.