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For Sale Pool launches 'OLS'

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George, you are following Pool closer than me.

What is your "take" of this action?

In one breath, they are promoting their new program.

And, in other breath, they are "spitting" at Verisign/Network.
 

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Well, they know in a month there won't be names dropping from NSI, so this is their reaction.

Personally, I'm against any system that isn't "explicit opt-in" (i.e. not automatically putting up names for auction, based on a non-response). They've not posted real details of the OLS, though.

The status quo is fine with me, where names are forced to be deleted (with the EDDP policy).
 

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How odd. So, their system is pretty much exactly like Network Solutions, except that registrars make themselves accountable to Pool's "policy" in extending an additional 30 days of "limbo" to emulate the Grace Period? Did I read that wrong?

If so, sounds like two-wrongs trying to make a "right". If registrars start signing up (and it'd be interesting to learn who's adopting it), it will really close up the landscape for anyone other than Pool and SnapNames. Though, I get the impression GoDaddy, eNom, and Tucows would have something significant to say.

I wonder how the jacks will end up falling on this?

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That's the first time I'm hearing NetSol won't be releasing names anymore - or are you referring to WLS?
 

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RADiSTAR said:
That's the first time I'm hearing NetSol won't be releasing names anymore - or are you referring to WLS?
See SnapNames.com

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Would Pool just die already?
 

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SnapNames, a NetSol partner...I still don't get it.
 

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RADiSTAR said:
SnapNames, a NetSol partner...I still don't get it.
SnapNames and NetSol formed an exclusive partnership, so that when names "expire", they automatically go to the winning SnapNames bidder (after the 36 day NetSol "grace" period... including sudo "pendingdelete" remarks littered through the whois).

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Everyone should have seen this coming, I know I sure did. For Pool to just close down or settle for the .org .info .biz and .us markets, would be plain lunacy, from a business standpoint. With the number of registrars they are currently partnered with, I am sure they will still find a niche in the new Face of the Game. Just as SN adapted to the competition bred by Pool, duplicating and improving the SN business model, Pool is doing the same thing. And IMO, more registrars and dropcatchers, will follow suit. The cards will soon start to unfold, showing who has the best portfolio of yet to be released onhold domains, showing which dropcatcher (Soon to be simply Auction Houses), will team up with the strongest registrars.

Although I have merely been in the domain market for a little over a year, I have noticed a stockpile of onhold domains, held by both Netsol and Register. As these new developments unfold, it is easier and easier to see the master plan behind events of the recent year. (compiling a huge portfolio of onhold domains, proposal of WLS as a distraction, and the approval the the domain store idea, which IMO will come into play in the near future, alleviating the need for most or all of the auction houses aka. dropcatchers.)

Why do most people seem surprised?
 

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Domainut said:
Why do most people seem surprised?
I think there's a difference between surprise and outrage, but they can seem similar. I don't think all the events form a neat, clean cut plan of attack, but I think a lot of people generally saw this coming, and are still amazed for it to finally come to a head. --Then there are the ones genuinely *surprised*, but I don't think that's the majority 'round these parts.

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Didn't ICANN just change their rules about this in order to block NSI/Snap relationship. I thought that in December that whole NSI/Snap thing was going to get shutdown with the new rule going into effect. Did I miss something ?
 

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Regardless, I'm sure "months" are still "money", even at the cost of consumer confusion with long detailed, winding press releases that promise to alter the entire way an industry functions. Seems like so much "Microsoft" to me...

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Strongvis, I believe you are correct. The Deletes Policy is not "new", since the task force (which I was on) finished our work on the policy more than a year ago. Thing is, it sat on some staff desk at ICANN for a while, and the recent NSI announcement motivated ICANN to get it posted as a consensus policy under the RAA.

So, no, going by the current registrar accreditation agreement, NSI is obligated to request a registry delete after the redemption grace period.
 

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so, NSI is obligated to delete the names, but they arent, and they are kept in house, correct?
Why isnt there a bigger fuss about this???
 

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jberryhill said:
So, no, going by the current registrar accreditation agreement, NSI is obligated to request a registry delete after the redemption grace period.

And if NetSol doesn't, I wonder what will ICANN do about it.

NetSol and SnapNames can still enjoy less than 3 months of money making,
though. :disappoin
 

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seeker said:
so, NSI is obligated to delete the names, but they arent, and they are kept in house, correct?
Why isnt there a bigger fuss about this???

Still can't get my head around it either.....but there is a fuss a brew to say the least in relation to....

"The unilateral change in policy was one of a number of reasons Pool.com, along with 99 other plaintiffs, sued VeriSign last month for damages in excess of $150 million."

From my understanding, pool is simply allowing other registrars to cash in on a similar Netsol/Snapnames scenario......they're hypocrites IMO. Greedy ones at that.
 

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can someone explain this whole thing...step by step in leymans terms so I can comprehend it...?
 
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