**Rick Schwartz shares his opine about dotMobi extension**

[Seraphim]

its not.

but his question involves making money on mobile formatted websites which is still just beginning.

there is some wonderful overlap.

I asked my question because I enjoy developing domains, and I have 1 .mobi staked out for purchase. The problem is however, I haven't seen many examples of a successful ground up development plan. I know CNN, ESPN, Nike, and many other large companies use .mobi, I just don't quite understand how an ordinary developer would drive traffic to one of these types of domains. I still don't know anyone who surfs the web via their cell phone. Is .mobi outside of the corporate brand world just speculative at this point, or are there some interesting things you can do with them as an ordinary guy?

 

[Creature]

I would be interested to know what the reserve price was for Flowers.mobi at the time of sale. How many other bidders were involved over the reserve? I'm trying but it's not so easy to understand dotmobi when the net, the iphone and the iphone .com button is virtually at one with the universe.

 

[mjnels]

I asked my question because I enjoy developing domains, and I have 1 .mobi staked out for purchase. The problem is however, I haven't seen many examples of a successful ground up development plan. I know CNN, ESPN, Nike, and many other large companies use .mobi, I just don't quite understand how an ordinary developer would drive traffic to one of these types of domains. I still don't know anyone who surfs the web via their cell phone. Is .mobi outside of the corporate brand world just speculative at this point, or are there some interesting things you can do with them as an ordinary guy?

the .mobi TLD as a whole is speculative at this point.. but your other question (the part i bolded above) is the kind of overlap im talking about.

the mobile web is brand new, but its pretty much a for sure thing at this point..not many people disagree on this.

usually people merge together the .mobi TLD and the question of mobile web usage.. it gets confusing.

 

[Theo]

usually people merge together the .mobi TLD and the question of mobile web usage.. it gets confusing.

Wasn't that the reason .mobi was launched in the first place? It was painted as a mobile device realm.

We all know it was just another introduction of the high-paying keywords. Hell, I would have liked sex.mobi too.

 

[KaneCo]

I asked my question because I enjoy developing domains, and I have 1 .mobi staked out for purchase. The problem is however, I haven't seen many examples of a successful ground up development plan. I know CNN, ESPN, Nike, and many other large companies use .mobi, I just don't quite understand how an ordinary developer would drive traffic to one of these types of domains. I still don't know anyone who surfs the web via their cell phone. Is .mobi outside of the corporate brand world just speculative at this point, or are there some interesting things you can do with them as an ordinary guy?

I don't like .mobi but i go on blueapple.mobi everyday to watch you tube on my blackberry while at work. There ads are well placed also so they may make decent money.

 

[mjnels]

Wasn't that the reason .mobi was launched in the first place? It was painted as a mobile device realm.

We all know it was just another introduction of the high-paying keywords. Hell, I would have liked sex.mobi too.

yes, .mobi was launched as a 'mobile device realm' i guess you could say..

and it was also an itroduction of high-paying keywords (thats where the 'domainers' come in of course)

in other words, i think they're positioned nicely as a new TLD in the emerging and changing mobile device world... but others disagree on that.

 

[nameadvertising.com]

The trend most companies are following is m.domain.com

.mobi is being developed by some because it is there. Newer browsers which can access your .com sites with m.domain.com will make it hard for .mobi to be the standard thus questionable in it's values paid for those mobi domains.

.com always had traffic values and revenues to compare & justify monetary values. The same cannot be said about .mobi (not just yet).

 

[Theo]

To go back to the original subject: Was Rick's post intended as a PR about his domain Flowers.mobi?

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[Seraphim]

the .mobi TLD as a whole is speculative at this point.. but your other question (the part i bolded above) is the kind of overlap im talking about.

the mobile web is brand new, but its pretty much a for sure thing at this point..not many people disagree on this.

usually people merge together the .mobi TLD and the question of mobile web usage.. it gets confusing.

I do own IDN's, support infrastructure isn't really there either, so I do understand the speculative element to investing in .mobi. My IDN's do however get type in traffic, so they are self sustaining to some degree. .mobi on the other hand does seem to take speculative investing to a much higher risk level than IDN's. The extension seems to place all of it's chips on a technology window in place now that may or may not remain linear as it heads into the future, is that a correct assessment? I would be afraid that technology bridges would come along that could erase the extension's relevance, and by technology I mean " web development technology" that would enable mobile based visitors to browse a streamlined version of an existing website, without the need for redirecting them to an alternative url.

I don't like .mobi but i go on blueapple.mobi everyday to watch you tube on my blackberry while at work. There ads are well placed also so they may make decent money.

Thanks for the link, I'll check it out.

 

[mjnels]

I do own IDN's, support infrastructure isn't really there either, so I do understand the speculative element to investing in .mobi. My IDN's do however get type in traffic, so they are self sustaining to some degree. .mobi on the other hand does seem to take speculative investing to a much higher risk level than IDN's. The extension seems to place all of it's chips on a technology window in place now that may or may not remain linear as it heads into the future, is that a correct assessment? I would be afraid that technology bridges would come along that could erase the extension's relevance, and by technology I mean " web development technology" that would enable mobile based visitors to browse a streamlined version of an existing website, without the need for redirecting them to an alternative url.

those already exist really.. iphones, safari browser and device detection.

the question most people still arnt sure of is whether some standard is even needed for the mobile internet... like m.domain.com, domain.com/mobile, or just simply device detection only.

 

[KaneCo]

I also do a lot of grunt work looking for domain typos etc, by going to cell phone stores and checking browser history looking for typos and new domain possibility, but have never seen a .mobi typed in. Still early in .mobi but you would think there would be some. I also do this anytime I see a computer you will find some random typins at the library.

 

[Devil Dog]

I say 10+

Wanna bet some dnf bucks on it?

I'll see your 10 pager and raise my bet to 6 pages!

500 DNF for the win!

 

[katherine]

You have to wonder whether those quoting Rick actually follow or understand his advice.
There is one key word that appears more than once in the quote: narrow.

There are too many .mobi registered that would not even sell in .com.
Let's face it, most of them don't have a chance.

 

[jasdon11]

To go back to the original subject: Was Rick's post intended as a PR about his domain Flowers.mobi?

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Cast your votes

No.

It may've been PR for his domain tickets.mobi



Say...aren't you the same guys that were intimating that his purchase of flowers was all a big, fat fix?

 

[Fearless]

Rick is just sucking up to gullible mobee fanatics to get them to fork over $2K to go to Orlando.
He's in panic mode. No one is buying tickets to his show.

 

[Seraphim]

those already exist really.. iphones, safari browser and device detection.

the question most people still arnt sure of is whether some standard is even needed for the mobile internet... like m.domain.com, domain.com/mobile, or just simply device detection only.

With regard to IDN's, my personal opinion is that it will take at least 5+ years [maybe never] before infrastructure is in place for domains in my language niche to "become usable" as a stand alone domain, as opposed to a complimentary piece of web infrastructure which I can use them for now, and which .mobi can obviously be used for as well.

What sort of time frame do you think we're looking at for .mobi with regard to investment maturity, 5+ years possibly? Technology moves fast, but web infrastructure seems to move much slower.

 

[mjnels]

Rick is just sucking up to gullible mobee fanatics to get them to fork over $2K to go to Orlando.
He's in panic mode. No one is buying tickets to his show.

you can do better than that..

What sort of time frame do you think we're looking at for .mobi with regard to investment maturity, 5+ years possibly? Technology moves fast, but web infrastructure seems to move much slower.

any time frame is a guess, but i signed up for the 10 year plan and trade-up along the way.

i dont think .mobi is working against technology.. but thats what people debate about.. at a very very base level and from a domain perspective its just a TLD in a niche that is growing and growing..

 

[Poker]

any time frame is a guess, but i signed up for the 10 year plan and trade-up along the way.

I don't now any one that has had to wait 10 years to sell a domain that had any value.

 

[mjnels]

I don't now any one that has had to wait 10 years to sell a domain that had any value.

well me neither, i dont think i even waited 10 days.

thats where the "trade-up along the way" thing comes in..

 

[Theo]

Rick is just sucking up to gullible mobee fanatics to get them to fork over $2K to go to Orlando.
He's in panic mode. No one is buying tickets to his show.

This might be our only chance to meet, Greg