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Top 10 most annoying, overused domain forum phrases.

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"Immagine the Possibilities" - obviously the person who regged the crap name immagined too much.

"Appraised at $x,xxx,xxx" - With a link to a fake appraisal certificate

"Appraised at 45,000,000 - but I am willing to sell for ONLY $99" - DUH, what is wrong here?

"3 LETTER.COM" - For sale: 0qz.com

"State names for sale" - For sale: 1California.net, 1Idaho.net

One of my peeves is when I get an inquiry about a domain name asking what price I want, I reply with "My best offer thus far is $10,000" (or whatever the highest offer to date has been). They reply with, "I will give you $400 for it". Um.. I turned down $10k, but alright - just because you offered four hundred, I will take that.. Yeah right.

I always laugh at some of the classics mentioned above like:

"All PMs replied to" - all one of them?

"Rare one of a kind domain" - If I cut the domain in half, is it going to be red in the middle?

"I need money for < insert sob story here >" - I am sorry you don't have money for your fish's viagra this month... Geez
 

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We should start to see the always interesting "Back to School" sales any day now. WTF do domains have to do with the original "back to school" sale concept.

"ok johnny, we got your pens your paper, some new corderoy pants, and 3 .coms. Your all set!"
 

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"back to school" only works if you need to sell names to pay your college tuition :-D
 

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GT Web said:
"back to school" only works if you need to sell names to pay your college tuition :-D

If your going to school and don't have the money to pay for it, then wtf are you doing.... well you know. :party: hehe
 

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This has actually happened to me many times at the forum, including today. I see a name listed for sale and promptly ask seller their lowest acceptable price, seller replies "please make me an offer, etc......." I reply back saying I do not make blind offers without some idea of expectations but no reply back?

Why do some sellers refuse to give a price? This can only happen in the domain business. Can you imagine buying food, a TV, a PC, media advertising, webhosting, clothing, cars or houses or whatever based on no stated asking price and seller refuses to give price if asked for it? How ridiculous is that? Is it any wonder so few end-users visit the domain forums?
 

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I like the anti-bump hack dnforum has now

and if they need money why don't they stop paying their isp and sell their computer lol

My most annoying phrase is "mod edit" :p
 

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mine would be appraissal
value- o,reg fee, nothing,-value,you couldnt give them too me,are you on drugs,trademark violation, never heard of that before

I hear these a lot just keep plugging away, as long as ppc pays reg fees it is a nice hobby
 

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"Please.....include your offer! Anyone who pm's/emails me to name a price will be deleted!"

Saw something worded like the above in a recent post by unnamed member.

"Offers Only" are at the top of my list of annoying words. I continue to find it amazing sellers think buyers will make blind offers with no idea what the seller wants for a domain.

For example, perhaps the buyer is willing to pay say $500 but he is reluctant to offer that because it's always possible seller may take say $50 so why would he offer $500 right away?

On the flip side buyer does not want to make low offer because he is thinking seller may believe it's a low-ball offer and seller wants top-dollar end-user pricing of say $4000 so why bother to insult a sensitive seller and then negotiate when the buyer will not go anywhere near that high anyway?

Comm'n you sellers, why not simply name a minimum price? Stating a price will greatly help the number of inquiries you get and overall sales.

P.S. There have been many names I wanted to possibly buy but I never bothered with an offer since the seller would not name a price range he has in mind. Why do sellers not want the possible sale when they really want to sell so badly? Very odd. See my previous post in this thread about that.
 

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RealNames, It's pretty simple:
If you don't like a sellers sales for one reason or another (for example, if they list one of those despicable 'offers only' sales :-D), simply skip them, or otherwise swallow your pride and simply do as they wish, i.e. comply with the seller's sales method!
It's such a waste of your time and energy to just keep getting annoyed about it again and again and again.... :)


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Why do sellers not want the possible sale when they really want to sell so badly?.
Well, you assume they want to sell them so 'badly'.

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beshopalula said:
RealNames, It's pretty simple: If you don't like a sellers sales for one reason or another (for example, if they list one of those despicable 'offers only' sales :-D), simply skip them, or otherwise swallow your pride and simply do as they wish, i.e. comply with the seller's sales method! It's such a waste of your time and energy to just keep getting annoyed about it again and again and again.... :) Well, you assume they want to sell them so 'badly'. .

I did not start this thread and the thread is all about annoying words so why is it so surprising I would do 2 posts on what annoys me in this thread? If I want to waste 'energy' in posting here why is that your concern anyway?

Regarding your other comment, why would a seller go thru the trouble of posting names for sale if he did not really want to sell them, and the fact the same name is posted repeatedly in more than one thread, different sales venues like sedo and afternic, etc, plus even in other forum boards sure indicates to a buyer he really wants to sell it 'badly.'

Why in the world would someone do all that domain marketing if he only has a mild or minor interest in selling it? Please! :)

Regarding why I bother to be interested, perhaps that may be because I have a use for the name or like it.
 

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RealNames said:
I did not start this thread and the thread is all about annoying words so why is it so surprising I would do 2 posts on what annoys me in this thread?
Ah, but it wasn't surprising at all. Cos again and again, (over time) you have posted about this same matter. How it annoys you, the way some sellers want offers instead of listing prices/don't give a price range, etc.
So, I gave you some friendly advice not to get so annoyed by the same thing over and over again, and stuff. That's all it was. No big deal. Did it -er- annoy you!? :wink:


If I want to waste 'energy' in posting here
I did not say that, of course. All I did was mentioning you wasting (your) energy getting annoyed by that same matter over and over again.


why is that your concern anyway?
No-one said it was my 'concern'. As I said a few secs ago, it was simply some frrrriendly advice. A 'tip', if you wish. Of course, disregard it all you want...


and the fact the same name is posted repeatedly in more than one thread, different sales venues like sedo and afternic, etc, plus even in other forum boards sure indicates to a buyer he really wants to sell it 'badly.'
No, but you interpret it that way. Maybe (s)he 'just' wants to sell it, without all that emotional attachment. Without desperation, or other extreme emotions.


Why in the world would someone do all that domain marketing if he only has a mild or minor interest in selling it? Please!
In between your 'badly' and your 'mild'/'minor' there's a whole range of other options. Did I say 'mild' or 'minor'? Nah..


Regarding why I bother to be interested
Now, of course I did not say you 'bother to be interested', if that is what you are implying here (maybe it isn't...). I said you chose to get annoyed again and again and again by the same thing.


perhaps that may be because I have a use for the name or like it.
Yes. So then, why not, if the seller wants offers for his name(s), make an offer, respect his/her wishes?! Heck, you can even stay secretly annoyed while making the offers, but doing it like that may actually get you anywhere... I.e. you may well wind up with his/her names that you wanted! :wink:


'PEACE!' (No there is another overused word if I ever saw one. (But annoying!??)

Best,
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Only "serious" offers entertained. Do not ask for price please PM offers.

So how much then?

$30
 

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beshopalula said:
Yes. So then, why not, if the seller wants offers for his name(s), make an offer, respect his/her wishes?! Heck, you can even stay secretly annoyed while making the offers, but doing it like that may actually get you anywhere... I.e. you may well wind up with his/her names that you wanted! :wink:

Thanks for all your feedback but actually the seller gets more annoyed than me more often than not.

Making an offer does not work very well as often if I make a blind offer the sellers first reaction is he is annoyed as he thinks it's a lowball. However, a blind offer would almost have to be 'lowball' as the buyer has no clue how much the seller will sell it for with most names so naturally most offers will be 'low.' Do you understand that?

The initial low blind offer sometimes gets the seller annoyed to the point he then refuses to negotiate at all by making a counter offer even when specifically asked for a counter offer or perhaps a price range.

Sometimes in the past I made no offers at all over this issue but occasionally did anyway. Starting today I will not be making any offers at all without some minimum info on the seller expectations. I hardly think that is asking too much.

Can you imagine making an offer to buy most anything else in life with the sellers price being a secret!
 

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RealNames said:
Making an offer does not work very well as often if I make a blind offer the sellers first reaction is he is annoyed as he thinks it's a lowball. However, a blind offer would almost have to be 'lowball' as the buyer has no clue how much the seller will sell it for with most names so naturally most offers will be 'low.' Do you understand that?
Do I understand that? Well, at the moment* I don't see a 'good' reason why the offer is likely to be low(ball), other than the person making the offer (the potential buyer) not being very good at estimating what a name is worth, and/or could be worth to him/her. Hence, then they often may well offer a price that is too low.
*Actually, I may be overlooking some 'good' reasons; it's late and my mind is on other things at the moment.


Starting today I will not be making any offers at all without some minimum info on the seller expectations. I hardly think that is asking too much.
It is not asking too much, but many sellers still won't comply to your preferences of course.


Can you imagine making an offer to buy most anything else in life with the sellers price being a secret!
Yes I can. For example, the zillions of auctions for tons of different products, with a (hidden!) reserve... like on eBay. Extremely popular, these days, both on sellers' end, as well as on buyers' (bidders') end. OK, there they always have to list a start-out price (be it $0.01 or something else), but often that is far from a good indication/ballpark figure. Yet, somehow, many people bid (make offers), and eventually wind up buying. Without being annoyed (well, I'd hope so) about the seller's ways of offering his goods. :)


Best,
Rob
 

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How about sales threads that start out like this, "Quitting the business" :-D
 

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Can you imagine making an offer to buy most anything else in life with the sellers price being a secret!

beshopalula said:
Yes I can. For example, the zillions of auctions for tons of different products, with a (hidden!) reserve... like on eBay.

But not at all a good comparison as you are comparing an auction environment vs a non-auction offering.
 

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RealNames said:
Why do some sellers refuse to give a price? This can only happen in the domain business. Can you imagine buying food, a TV, a PC, media advertising, webhosting, clothing, cars or houses or whatever based on no stated asking price and seller refuses to give price if asked for it? How ridiculous is that? Is it any wonder so few end-users visit the domain forums?

All of those have a retail value, registered domains do not. The reg fee is not the retail value once it's been registered, because the value is in the combination of letters. Some people don't want to undersell themselves. It's like art. My friend is a painter. He sold most of his paintings for $15, but at a gallery, he got $1200 for one of the same ones. Same applies here, reseller vs. retail sales. Some sellers like to hear offers before they give a price. Yes, it can be annoying. :-D
 

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Basically, from the stand point of a seller, he knows he wants $50 for the domain, but on the off chance you are willing to offer more, he doesnt want to show his hand. Its a little bit of a chess game, finding out who will disclose their expected valuation of the domain first. Some sellers would rather lose a $50 sale doing that in the hopes of getting $500 for the name.
 

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GT Web said:
Basically, from the stand point of a seller, he knows he wants $50 for the domain, but on the off chance you are willing to offer more, he doesnt want to show his hand. Its a little bit of a chess game, finding out who will disclose their expected valuation of the domain first. Some sellers would rather lose a $50 sale doing that in the hopes of getting $500 for the name.

But don't you find that strange? The seller would be quite happy with $50, to the point he knows that is what it is worth, (and probably not even that much) but dreams of one day finding a buyer that will give $500. Whilst I can see there are huge differences in the numbers, how likely is the $500? If the above is true and often works, I should not be selling some of my $50 domains, but 'banking' them in hope.
 
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