For Sale Traffic Domain - 24 Hr sale only !

[JohnGBUK]

24 Hr SALE ONLY
For sale premium with traffic domain name:

BITC .co.uk

Sedo revenues:

January 2004 €6.06
February 2004 €5.62
March 2004 €15.22
April 2004 €12.13
May 2004 €11.54
June 2004 €3.45
July 2004 €4.51
August 2004 €13.32
September 2004 €9.11
October 2004 €9.80
November 2004 €21.28

6.397 Views collectively
533 Views per month on the average
896 Clicks collectively
75 Clicks per month on the average
14.01% Click through rate on the average

Offers on the forum only. Offers must obviously be at least in the xxx price range.

 

[MerlinK]

What category is it earning in?

 

[JohnGBUK]

Currently a portal site.

 

[MrsJello]

this was my posting from August - i still do not have the domain i bought even though i have opened a case on ebay SquareTrade

Mr John Carver is NOT a seller, but a SCAMMER!

From time to time we all have bad deals...

If we would ALL SHARE the "weed" would be sorted out for good!

YOU! Could be NEXT!

mom.org.uk - purchased on ebay June 2003!

Till today (over 1 year) , despite numerous e-mails to the seller, the domain is not transfered!​

WHOIS query result:
Domain Name:
mom.org.uk
Registrant:
John Carver <----- is YOUR MAN!
Registrant's Address:
42 Garrigill
Wilnecote
Tamworth
Staffordshire
B77 4DD
GB


Most e-mails are below

-----Original Message-----
From: John & Lisa [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 10:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: mom.org.uk = RE: eBay UK Total for Item#2737831329 (*** MOM
*** Google 9.3 million - Prestige!)


Thanks for the reminder.
I do have it to hand now. I will ensure it is posted off to you.

John


----- Original Message -----
From: "DomainSpaParking" <[email protected]>
To: "'John & Lisa'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 9:13 PM
Subject: RE: mom.org.uk = RE: eBay UK Total for Item#2737831329 (*** MOM
***
Google 9.3 million - Prestige!)

Any news?

-----Original Message-----
From: John & Lisa [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 9:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: mom.org.uk = RE: eBay UK Total for Item#2737831329 (*** MOM
*** Google 9.3 million - Prestige!)

The necessary transfer form has been requested from the registrar.
When I receive this I will post to the address you provided.
I will update when it arrives.

Regards,
John

----- Original Message -----
From: "DomainSpaParking" <[email protected]>
To: "'John & Lisa'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 2:50 PM
Subject: RE: mom.org.uk = RE: eBay UK Total for Item#2737831329 (*** MOM
***
Google 9.3 million - Prestige!)

Mrs Jello, LLC
PO BOX 120
Livingston, NJ 07039-0120
USA

-----Original Message-----
From: John & Lisa [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 10:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: mom.org.uk = RE: eBay UK Total for Item#2737831329 (*** MOM
*** Google 9.3 million - Prestige!)

Yes.
Please send me your full postal details.

John

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paid-Domain-Parking" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 6:01 PM
Subject: mom.org.uk = RE: eBay UK Total for Item#2737831329 (*** MOM ***
Google 9.3 million - Prestige!)

John

I forgot how to login to manage the domain

And, is it possible for you to get the forms to transfer the domain to
my name


Many thanx

igal

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 6:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: eBay UK Total for Item#2737831329 (*** MOM *** Google 9.3
million - Prestige!) mom.org.uk


Dear magicmanrx,

The seller, thecollectablesshop, has entered a total price of £30.99 for
the item below.

The seller entered the following message: Thank-you for your winning
bid. If you wish to pay by PayPal we will undertake an immediate
transfer for you. Looking forward to hearing from you. Best regards,
JOHN


To complete Checkout for this item, click here:
http://cgi3.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?UnifiedCheckoutShippingDispa
tcher&item=2737831329&transactionid=0&quantity=1&editAddress=0&level=1&s
spagename=cktinv:01

The seller accepts PayPal for this item so you can pay securely with any
major credit card.

Payment Details:
---------------------
Item name: *** MOM *** Google 9.3 million - Prestige!
Item number: 2737831329

Date entered: Saturday, Jun 28, 2003 15:47:29 PDT

Item Price: £30.99
Shipping & Handling: £0.00
Additional Shipping: £0.00
-------------
Total: £30.99

Payment Instructions: Paypal or cheque payments. Buyer to pay the £30.00
+vat transfer cost on the top of auction sale end price. The fee is
payable to NominetUK.

Seller's Payment Address:
Mr J Carver
42 Garrigill
Wilnecote, Tamworth B77 4DD, United Kingdom

If you have any questions, you can contact the seller at
[email protected].

Remember: eBay will not ask you for sensitive personal information
(such as your password, credit card and bank account numbers,
Social Security numbers, etc.) in an email.

Copyright 1995-2003 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks
and brands are the property of their respective owners.

 

[MerlinK]

Mrs Jello,

thanks for the heads up.

 

[JohnGBUK]

Oh dear sad boy... Let's throw a little fact in. I did a very nice deal a couple of days ago without problem:
http://www.dnforum.com/showthread.php?t=73107

The only problem deal I have ever had is from you Jello... And the only problem was you Jello. Let me remind you, your ebay, paypal and squaretrade complaints failed. All three included my participation although I didn't need to participate. You really do make me laugh sad boy. When you are in the UK you have my address pop in and well sort matter out. It won't take very long at all I can promise you that. Until then, you have one option left, your lawyer. Now use it sad boy.

 

[MrsJello]

he can say anything he wants - HE TOOK ME FOR A RIDE with my FIRTS .uk purchase

what could be the reason that the domain is STILL under his name?

ebay rule: nothing can be done AFTER 3 months!

i DID NOT KNOW that for uk domains its not enough to move them, but nominet forms must be submitted!

"woke up" too late and the scammer took advantage

HE WILL CHEAT YOU TOO!




from today nominet.org.uk

WHOIS query result:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Domain Name:
mom.org.uk

Registrant:
John Carver

Registrant's Address:
42 Garrigill
Wilnecote
Tamworth
Staffordshire
B77 4DD
GB

Registrant's Agent:
Pipex Communications Hosting Ltd [Tag = HOSTEUROPE]
URL: http://www.123-reg.co.uk

Relevant Dates:
Registered on: 21-Jun-2003
Renewal Date: 21-Jun-2005
Last updated: 19-Aug-2003

Registration Status:
Registered until renewal date.

Name servers listed in order:
ns1.mydomain.com 64.94.117.195
ns2.mydomain.com 216.52.121.233

WHOIS database last updated at 17:20:01 29-Nov-2004

--
(c) Nominet UK 1996 - 2004

For further information and terms of use please see http://www.nic.uk/whois
Nominet reserves the right to withhold access to this service at any time.

 

[MerlinK]

Yeah, I was going to say -- I don't understand: If Mrs.Jello won the auction and paid you for the domain name, aren't you contractually obligated to transfer the domain name to him?

-Merlin

 

[JohnGBUK]

I can tell you it will very soon be deleted so I would suggest you get your act together with the registration of the name. Clearly, you do not know what you are doing from your own admission.

I repeat, "The only problem deal I have ever had is from you Jello... And the only problem was you Jello. Let me remind you, your ebay, paypal and squaretrade complaints failed".

 

[Gamerz]

the site doent work for me

 

[JohnGBUK]

Which one?

 

[MrsJello]

this is a quote from UK forum posted by the forum founder and administrator
www.detagged.co.uk

Joined: 21 Apr 2003
Posts: 165
Location: Manchester
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:16 pm Post subject:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The salient fact here is that mom.org.uk is STILL in John's name.

As Igal and John are both forum members I attempted to mediate this long running dispute between the two parties several months ago. Igal replied to me to explain his side of the story and was very courteous and professional. John gave a very agressive reply demanding that I remove Igal's legitimate and factual forum posts, threatened one of my mediators, and basically told me to "mind my own business".

We have done business with Igal and you will not find a better trading partner. He is the quickest payer in the business and only asks that a vendor's transfer documentation is sent to him with the same promptness that he excercised in paying for his purchases. Is this really too much to ask? And yes, if you make him wait a whole year after he has paid you for a domain, then what a surprise, he will get severely browned off!
_________________
Chris Holland

Last edited by detagged on Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:03 pm; edited 1 time in total

 

[JohnGBUK]

Oh, silly you Jello, you have simply forgotten to mention David's following comment. Just to remind you let me remind you. You would not have done that deliberately would you (sad boy):

"I'd like to reiterate that when I purchased a domain name from John Carver, over a year ago, I had no problems whatsoever. I actually forgot to sign the cheque (at the time I didn't write them very often - maybe once every couple of years - and the particular bank where the cheque was from neglected to put a line where I needed to sign so I just didn't think). Sounds dumb I know but it happened.

Anyway I asked John to destroy the cheque and I think I BACSed him the money. Anyway I got the documents very soon afterwards for no extra fee other than what was quoted in my final winning bid price. I've never done business with Igal so cannot comment but I know people that have and they've got no complaints.

Unless someone can furnish me with a full explanation of exactly what happened from start to finish, I cannot really comment on this particular situation except to say that it might be good for all concerned if it got sorted and, perhaps, just put down to a genuine misunderstanding".

 

[Mr Webname]

I don't think this is the place for this argument but it is clear that transfer of the domain has never been carried out.
Nominet requires a fee to transfer any .uk domain and the fee of £35 is more than the name was sold for.
Why cannot this be resolved here and now without further mutual slanging?

 

[JohnGBUK]

Mr Webname, I have no intention of dealing with this matter any further. Jello had initiated proceedings with paypal, ebay and squaretrade. I 'voluteered' to be invloved with all. His cases all failed. Becuase of this he attempts to hound my dealings. I have said to him I will speak to his lawyer, he refuses to assign a lawyer to the matter. Case closed.

 

[MrsJello]

yes, the buyer usually pays the transfer fee, but... the forms for transfer CAN'T be requested from the NOMINET by the buyer

THE SELLER REQUESTS THESE FORMS, SIGNS AND SENDS TO THE BUYER once he is paid

in the scammer cases, the seller receives thge fund and does not forward a FREE transfer form that can be requsted to be send directly to the buyer

Looks like mr John Carver is also promoting his samming services via his forums on www.gmails.co.uk and www.gmailscom to others.

WHY CAN'T THE SELLER PROVIDE THESE FREE FORMS only HE knows

 

[j8jweb]

Sounds complicated. Igal, could you clarify if John has ever sent you *any* transfer forms at all. I could not tell from your post. I've never heard of "free transfer forms", but if they exist they sound a bit convoluted.

 

[MrsJello]

The forms are FREE, the 35 GBP is paid by the seller to nominet

i never received the free forms to fill and send with my payment

 

[acronym007]

All I know is that if I pay for something I shoule receive something. If you buy a car, you should receive the car, no matter the time it takes. To simply state you are not going to procude the product you promised AFTER you received payment is fraud. If you are not going to give this person their Domain Name, then why not give them the money back so you can clear your own name? Do you really want to take someone's money and not provide a product or service? It's very odd and I for one appreciate this matter being brought ot the forum's attention. I don't like shady deals. It's very simple, give the name or the money and no one has a problem.

 

[JohnGBUK]

What on earth are you talking about? Please get your facts right before posting acronym.