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[Anthony Ng]

I think hardwork, motivation, vision, and the ability to think outside the box. I doubt there was ever "GREED" involved.

Isn't GREED (whether it's money, fame or just that sense of satisfaction) the motivation behind most hardwork? But I do agree that Yun Ye has the vision that most others here lack. LOL!

By the way, that guy (Yun Ye) has looong passed that low level "addiction" phase; it's strictly business, he doesn't even care what the names are, as long as they bring in traffic/income, those are good domains.

As for Ultsearch still catching drops, it'll take time to stop the train.

 

[ShaunP]

Isn't GREED (whether it's money, fame or just that sense of satisfaction) the motivation behind most hardwork? But I do agree that Yun Ye has the vision that most others here lack. LOL!

I don't know about your world Nameslave, but in mine ... "money, fame or just that sense of satisfaction" does NOT equate to GREED. That sounds like the usual left wing Canadian drivel that unfortunately permeates Canada today. IMHO

Shaun

 

[Anthony Ng]

... "money, fame or just that sense of satisfaction" does NOT equate to GREED. That sounds like the usual left wing Canadian drivel that unfortunately permeates Canada today.

My take is that GREED is a human nature, whether it's for money, fame or simply a sense of satisfaction; the question is how you contain (neither suppress nor let loose) it. By the way, my philosophy is more of Confucianism in this context.

 

[deepstar]

I think they will continue grabbing domain names until the cash is in their bank account. This deal is not a done deal until money exchanges hands. I have seen dozens of acquisitions that people worked on for months go sour at the very end.

 

[seeker]

I have never seen this. How did you see this? Did you make an update and waited 3 days to see it in whois?

at least on 2 occasions, one was a domain I bought and changed whois, and the other was a caught domain, pir did not update the whois for 3 days.
Like I said it is very rare, but I have seen it twice.

 

[dvdrip]

Maybe it was not pir's fault. Maybe the registrar makes a batch update.

 

[Edwin]

If they have a system/process and team in place to grab "productive" domains which are worth (on average) more-to-much-more than they cost, then unless they signed a non-compete, why stop? I doubt Yun himself has to do any of the day to day stuff, but it's a simple enough matter to keep paying salaries each month.

 

[mole]

Yun has done a great job in the past grabbing names, he is someone you wished you never had to compete with in a drop, besides BD. I have always maintained that with BD, at least you get a chance to buy the name at relatively reasonable prices. With Ults, you'ld be lucky if they even respond to you.

In a way, I'm glad this is the start of the end of the era for Ults, I'm sure he realises that with the current bid "fat wallet" system and sophisticated monitoring services available to every tom, dick and hairy larry, he knows the good times are long over.

 

[Michael GilmourMichael Gilmour is verified member.]

Hi,
This is an interesting discussion.....but almost irrelevant.
What I'm trying to understand is the entire drop process and how one particular firm can exploit a weakness in it. Can anyone please provide a detail step by step list of what happens when a name expires? It would seem that if we're all being killed by one player than some proper analysis seems to be in order.

Whizzbang

 

[seeker]

oh well.
domains101, names101, domainnames101, and even dn101 is taken so I guess you are stuck with the learning curve.

read this forum well.
Your question will answer itself.

 

[Michael GilmourMichael Gilmour is verified member.]

LOL!

Let's hope that someone here is able to assist us all....or maybe we are all that competitive that it's not possible.

Whizzbang

oh well.
domains101, names101, domainnames101, and even dn101 is taken so I guess you are stuck with the learning curve.

read this forum well.
Your question will answer itself.

 

[seeker]

DNFers will assist you I am sure.
WHat exactly is your Q?
The drop cycle can be viewed at snapcheck.com and even pool.com

catching a domain is an entire different story...

 

[mole]

catching a domain is an entire different story...

It's a story of a broken record that repeats and repeats - pay me more, pay me more ....

 

[Michael GilmourMichael Gilmour is verified member.]

If the drop system information is 100% published then how is it that someone is able to exploit it? There must by other issues here.

I know the head of ICANN so I might go and have a chat to him....

Whizzbang

 

[Anthony Ng]

I know the head of ICANN so I might go and have a chat to him....

Good, ... : wink :

 

[hifi2]

If the drop system information is 100% published then how is it that someone is able to exploit it? There must by other issues here.

I know the head of ICANN so I might go and have a chat to him....

Whizzbang

The drop system as it is currently is about as open as it gets, there's nothing to "exploit", you just need a deep pocket to be successful.

When Ult Search first started it was an entirely different system, only very few people knew how it worked and most, if not all, of those people are multi-millionaires now.

 

[mole]

When Ult Search first started it was an entirely different system, only very few people knew how it worked and most, if not all, of those people are multi-millionaires now.

When the tea lady tells you to buy .COM, its time to get out.

 

[Michael GilmourMichael Gilmour is verified member.]

Hmmm....
Law of the open market.....if you have an entirely flat playing field and someone consistently beats everyone else....then it's not as flat as you first thought.....

ie. If Ult keeps winning the majority of drops then they've got an ace up their sleeve.

Whizzbang

 

[hifi2]

ie. If Ult keeps winning the majority of drops then they've got an ace up their sleeve. /QUOTE]

What/who gives you that idea? They haven't been active in the drops since many months ago. In fact ever since every drop catcher has adapted the auction model, no one person or company has won the "majority".

 

[mole]

...then it's not as flat as you first thought.....

I have to agree with this. The market is mountaineous, mountains of money that is.

It does seem Ults may have invested huge amounts of dough into private RRP connections and Snapnames Snapbacks and deals with so-called "public" drop catchers based on volume.