.US Heating Up!

[StockDoctor]

Perfect Storm Prediction: The .US domain fans will find a ton more developed websites in 2006.

I have knowledge of the addition of several thousand .US websites planned for development in the areas of business, communities and special interests starting this 4th quarter 2005 and thru-out 2006.

I expect this major move will start to have some impact on the recognition of the extension within the domain reseller market as well. This is already starting to be felt with increasing 5 figure sales and the news of the highest .US domain sale (Business.us) to date reported just last week. I expect the second highest sale to follow, and be reported in www.DNjournal.com tonight.

The boost from planned development by foreign businesses trying to establish .US acceptance and recognition will join the push towards capitalizing on local advertising and search by American businesses. Both are looking to the value of the .US extension as a geographical qualifier.

The increasing values of the .US extension are also being reflected in both the significant reduction of dropping .US generics and the increasing prices reflected for those in the newer auctions. With Domainers being largely shut out of the drop game, the turn will again be towards development vs higher purchase costs. This will fuel the overall increase in .US websites as well.
Doc

 

[zouzas]

dont you mean www.dnjournal.US :cheeky:

 

[mole]

Perfect Storm Prediction: The .US domain fans will find a ton more developed websites in 2006.

Did Neustar pay you to write this pr, doc? :cheeky:

 

[StockDoctor]

Did Neustar pay you to write this pr, doc? :cheeky:

They should have. Instead Neustar hasn't promoted the extension much at all. A shame. Even with that lack of action on their part, the extension is making some other gains of note. As reported by Zouzas in another thread, the NY Times report on blogs recently named a .US extension site as the #1 blog.

Also, in line with the local search theme in the US, CNN Money posted an article about San Francisco's plans to install free WIFI in the city via a contract with Google.

http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/03/technology/google_wifi/

Google said it offers the company a chance to test "new location-based applications and services that enable people to find relevant information exactly when and where they need it."

Some of those applications might include a service that uses Google maps to provide directions according to a user's location, or they could provide local advertising that targets customers in the immediate vicinity of the business

Now what domains do you think the local small businesses could afford that may both indicate their product keywords and the geographical location of their business?

 

[sasquatch]

Now what domains do you think the local small businesses could afford that may both indicate their product keywords and the geographical location of their business?

Depends on in which country they are in? :clown:

But if you're talking about the States the answer would be the three-word regfee .com domains. You can't beat that: $6.95 and .com at that :-D

JacksHandTools.com $6.95 vs. HandTools.us $500-$1500
No brainer.

After all you're talking about small businesses, and they are not exactly well-versed in marketing differences, especially if they cost them more, rather than less.

 

[StockDoctor]

Depends on in which country they are in? :clown:

But if you're talking about the States the answer would be the three-word regfee .com domains. You can't beat that: $6.95 and .com at that :-D

The point being that they don't need to go three-word domains with .US, and .com can also mean England, Australia or anyplace else. With the planned expansion of .US websites, and the attached recognition growth, like finding their local library or State services on .US, they will become aware.

 

[sasquatch]

and .com can also mean England, Australia or anyplace else.

What, you think americans think Australia when they see .com?
:-D

like finding their local library or State services on .US

The local library or State services on .US were there years before the official .us rollout to the public... and it still didn't make a damn difference.

they will become aware.

I was in the supermarket earlier this morning; the lady in front of me purchased a weekly newspaper with this headline: "UFO kidnaps Elvis!!"

 

[StockDoctor]

What, you think americans think Australia when they see .com? :-D

What you think they think US when they see com?

The local library or State services on .US were there years before the official .us rollout to the public... and it still didn't make a damn difference.

They will make the connection when they see more of their local town sites using .US.

I was in the supermarket earlier this morning; the lady in front of me purchased a newspaper with this headline: "UFO kidnaps Elvis!!"

I thought you only read the sasquatch news? Thinking forward is the way to make money in this game, or were you one of the people reading the same rag when .com rolled out and they said the web would never catch on because the graphics slowed the Internet down too much. :cheeky:

 

[DryHeat]

All the new tlds, including .US since its opening up for general usage, are making gradual and steady progress....may be not as fast as some expected but they are heading forward. I remeber the doom and gloom predictions by naysayers at their second anniversary (since the initial registration was for two years) that how the reg numbers and these new registeries would collapse....on the contrary, from every objective measure, reg numbers to Google-indexed pages to re-sales, these new tlds seem to be headed in the right direction.

One thing I can say with impunity: Almost all new-tld supporters have significant personal stake in their success AND all naysayers have nothing in terms of any decent new tld names in their portfolio....not only that, my bet is that these naysayers don't even have any prime .com names since only those with mediocre old-tld names would feel threatened by the success of new tlds. Prove me wrong if you will.

 

[sasquatch]

Almost all new-tld supporters have significant personal stake in their success

Bingo!

AND all naysayers have nothing in terms of any decent new tld names in their portfolio

Why would they? Remember they don't believe in them to begin with

since only those with mediocre old-tld names would feel threatened by the success of new tlds.

Just because someone doesn't belive in something it doesn't mean he or she is threatened. For instance, I don't belive in the existence of wicked witches and wizards, but that doesn't mean I'm threatened by the garden Gnomes.

Prove me wrong if you will.

DCG
Ult
Digi
Vaxis
Cnet
...

 

[zouzas]

Ult


ULT was years ahead of everyone before he sold out ,,my guess he;s ahead of everyone now ,selling out, before his portfolio of names got diluted further.

 

[stuff]

Ult


ULT was years ahead of everyone before he sold out ,,my guess he;s ahead of everyone now ,selling out, before his portfolio of names got diluted further.

He has already lost, he will never find so good portfolio for that cheap.

10 years when he sees news that his portfolio was sold for x100 that money he got for it, he will cry in his mansion

 

[sasquatch]

He has already lost, he will never find so good portfolio for that cheap.
In 10 years he will cry in his mansion when he sees news that his portfolio was sold for x100 that money he got for it

And then Marchex will cry 20 years from now when they read that their unload was sold for x1000 money they got it for. And so on.

In fact, I say let us abolish domaineering and domain sales completely because we will all be crying at some points in our lives.

 

[DryHeat]

Just because someone doesn't belive in something it doesn't mean he or she is threatened. For instance, I don't belive in the existence of wicked witches and wizards, but that doesn't mean I'm threatened by the garden Gnomes....

DCG
Ult
Digi
Vaxis
Cnet

In the case of naysayers, its not simply NOT believing in the viability of new tlds, its an active and passionate belief that they've already or would eventually fail in the face of objective data contrary to that stance. Having some understanding of human psychology, I'd argue that such an emotional and vocal opposition to something has to have some personal stake in it since otherwise it'd be a state of relative indifference just like people have in politics or for that matter just like the attitudes of most of the folks/entities you've listed above. For instance, myself and I'm sure many other new-tld well-wishers, see newcomers posting all the time about prospects of lesser known ccTLDs (.to, .bz, .ws, etc) and have never even felt the urge to jump in and start making doom and gloom prognostications about them...thats because I don't believe in them much, have not been interested or involved in them, and hence the state of relative indifference....See the difference! Taking your own example, how often have you passionately debated and argued trying to prove the non-existence of wicked witches and wizards?

 

[sasquatch]

In the case of naysayers, its not simply NOT believing in the viability of new tlds, its an active and passionate belief that they've already or would eventually fail in the face of objective data contrary to that stance.

That is your opinion which may or may not be true. All those lesser extensions you mentioned below also experience levels of growth etc. but you still don't believe in them despite the "objective data contrary to that stance". You may not voice against them, but that doesn't stop you from having that same non-belief feeling I might have in regards to the general extensions you care about. In that aspect of the matter both you and I are the same, the only difference is that I might be more vocal due to how I was raised, or due to the amount of time I've got to waste around here. So nothing too complicated after all

Having some understanding of human psychology, I'd argue that such an emotional and vocal opposition to something has to have some personal stake in it since otherwise it'd be a state of relative indifference just like people have in politics or for that matter just like the attitudes of most of the folks/entities you've listed above.

Vocal opposition or a relative indiffirence amounts to same in the end if the underlying premise causing them is the same. Whether I voice that personal opposition or I remain "relatively indifferent" to it is causally and practically the same. No difference, except in your blood pressure. :-D So if it is the same in all practical matters, why am I dissallowed to voice it if I feel like it? Who I have to watch for? The increasingly partisan "domain police"?

For instance, myself and I'm sure many other new-tld well-wishers, see newcomers posting all the time about prospects of lesser known ccTLDs (.to, .bz, .ws, etc) and have never even felt the urge to jump in and start making doom and gloom prognostications about them...thats because I don't believe in them much, have not been interested or involved in them, and hence the state of relative indifference....See the difference! Taking your own example, how often have you passionately debated and argued trying to prove the non-existence of wicked witches and wizards?

Being a smart person you are you should know that not everything works on the principles of "I could care less" hence "I should be relatively indifferent" all the time. That is nothing but your understanding of the "inner workings of the world/human soul". Sometimes people just shoot shit or voice their opinions for reasons of sheer boredom or for socializing effects, passing time or whatever other reasons they might have. But the point of democracy is to hear and tolerate differring opinions. Imagine the world (or board) where we all thought the same? Pardon me, but I hate cults, even those of domain names order.

So I have a solution: if you don't like my opinion, you can just ignore it completely or bypass it totally (like probably many others do) and we could live happily everafter.

Taking your own example, how often have you passionately debated

Passionately debated? Gee I thought I was rather subdued actually? Perhaps because of that relative indifference

and argued trying to prove the non-existence of wicked witches and wizards?

That's because I'm not a member of those boards, and if I was I would probably be saying something to that effect to the crowds there. "Look guys, about those wicked witches and wizards..."

:-D :-D

 

[DryHeat]

Sometimes people just shoot shit or voice their opinions for reasons of sheer boredom ...............

Well, in that case carry on; at least others have some idea whats behind your voicing your subjective opinions or "shooting shit" as you yourself put it. BTW, its not just "relative indifference" when you refrain from posting negative and pessimistic comments about what others are doing and hoping, especially without having solid evidence validating such gloomy forecasts, its also a reflection of basic human decency....ever thought of going to the owner of a newly opened brick and mortar business and telling him on his face that his venture is doomed for failure? Its for the utmost democracy of virtual forums that folks can blatantly declare financial doom for the ventures in which others have dearly invested with their time and money....in other words they are freely allowed to "shoot shit" without any repercussions...!

 

[sasquatch]

Well, in that case carry on; at least others have some idea about the causation of your subjective opinions or "shooting shit" as you yourself put it.

Precisely. Nothing wrong with "shooting shit". I'm not a possesor of a swollen ego to have a constant need to be "well liked", "admired" or even "taken seriously". If we accept the fact that none of us could ever possibly be right all the time, then what's the problem? I think people should lighten up a bit, and not take everything as a sign of personal consipracy against them or their goals.

 

[StockDoctor]

Precisely. Nothing wrong with "shooting shit". I'm not a possesor of a swollen ego to have a constant need to be "well liked", "admired" or even "taken seriously". If we accept the fact that none of us could ever possibly be right all the time, then what's the problem? I think people should lighten up a bit, and not take everything as a sign of personal consipracy against them or their goals.

I certainly don't take your statements as a sign of a conspiracy, but the alt ext crowd is very much used to the attacks continually leveled against some of their holdings, and what makes it tough to take is the pro .com stand and anti anything else, often without explanation.

The largest part of my personal portfolio happens to be .coms. For example, while only owning 1 .ws name per every 1k of my coms, I can and do see the worth in buying some for several hundred $. The fact that .US names have been sold at $4 and $5 figures seems to fly in the face of your arguments against their ownership. The key words here being "your arguments" because I have yet to see what it is exactly that makes you think them NOT worthwhile?

The previous posts have layed out a potential scenario of both local and International .US demand that not only could play out, but has played out in part already. Examples can be supplied if required, but I'd really like to hear your basis for denial.

I think your anti .US statements would carry more weight if you attached some theory to back up your opinion.

 

[sasquatch]

BTW, its not just "relative indifference" when you refrain from posting negative and pessimistic comments about what others are doing and hoping, especially without having solid evidence validating such gloomy forecasts, its also a reflection of basic human decency....

I overhelmingly disagree with this. I wasn't posting against any particular domain, rather I was just mildly voicing personal opinion and speculating on the prospect of this particual extension in general. Having no public faith in one "extension" is very general and vague and should certainly not make you feel "threatened" or obliged to ideologically paint me as a "indecent human being".

ever thought of going to the owner of a newly opened brick and mortar business and telling him on his face that his venture is doomed for failure?

Your comparison is unfounded because I wasn't commenting about one domain (venture), but about the whole extension (business or service in general). That would be similar to expresing my opinion, not that Bob's Brokerage House on 13th street suck - but that New York Stock Exchange as a whole sucks.

Its for the utmost democracy of virtual forums that folks can blatantly declare financial doom for the ventures in which others have dearly invested with their time and money....in other words they are freely allowed to "shoot shit" without any repercussions...!

No, I wasn't declaring any blatant dooms as I explained above. And yes, you can indeed, for instance, bad mouth scuba diving industry in general if you want, despite the fact that many people have a lot of time and money invested in it. If you desire reprecussions for others for expressing something so vague and general like that, then you do perhaps belong in stalinist CCCP more than you belong in a democracy you are talking about.

 

[Rubber DuckRubber Duck is verified member.]

He has already lost, he will never find so good portfolio for that cheap.

10 years when he sees news that his portfolio was sold for x100 that money he got for it, he will cry in his mansion

That is not necessarily clear. If as I suspect he is moving on the Chinese IDN market, he could well end up with a portfolio that massively exceed the one he has sold. OK! the IDN situation is unproven, but that is typical of speculative investment, but at least he will only be paying reg fee. For what he sold at he could we afford to buy 10s of thousands!

Of course he could just stick it a bank somewhere and live hansomely of the interest, but somehow I don't think that is his style.

Either way I would love to know!

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon