Your site listed at Google..GUARANTEED!

[izopod]

Originally posted by SkinzDotOrg
Could we have a couple of sponsors please!

idea: Since there would always be at least two people "duking it out" (maybe more to make it interesting), I would think those peoples' sites who will get "meaningfully" listed in google would "sponsor" the event. This would be a way for those involved to recoup the costs involved, as well as having "bragging rights". Might attract some big name submission services... hmmm (Wonder what a "Google Fight" promoter would make!)

 

[Fearless]

Originally posted by RealNames


and heavily flamed me on it

I can vouch for that. You was like a wounded lamb pounced on by a pack of wolves.

 

[system0]

joined this thread late but i thought id contribute

i am not disputing SkinzDotOrg's knowledge of search engines but there is not other way to look at this other than him ripping of fellow members

google is incredibly easy to get into - i have never had a site take longer than 4 weeks to get in - the reason being that google updates monthly

you can get in quicker depending on a number of things but the main one being the time of the month you submit your site - i had one of my sites listed in a day and i didnt even want it listed - because i placed a link saying the site was being launched soon on my other site which had a pr of 6

the reason bid and a few others have hounded SkinzDotOrg is because hes ripping people off - anyone who knows even a little about search engines will confirm this - regardless of a platinum membership i dont agree with this

$65.00 is a helluva lot of money for something which takes seconds to do - i dont want to jump on his post because he seems like a nice lad but i dont want fellow members ripped off and thats whats happening here

i will personally help out any member here who cant get listed on google, fast, teoma, inktomi etc for free and im sure bidwinner will as well

i cannot stress how much i oppose this sort of thing - anyone here who sticks their site on their forum signature will get listed without even submitting (though not with dnforum because you have to be registered to view the forum)

im sorry SkinzDotOrg but this stinks

 

[Jernet]

Fonzi, who asked for your opinion...you better go, cuz I hear ralf malf needs you to help him take care of some business......ayeeeeeeee

Looks like you better go after the 20 or so sites that offer paid inclusion in Intomi than as well. I am getting a little pissed here my self. Can't anybody read? If you are not interested, get the F*** out of the thread, this will turn ugly very quickly. Unless you want me to bash every thread you ever start. Besides Fonz I see you on geektalk.com offering all your crappy sites for sale. Some for a few hundred dollars, and I thought they were a rip off because I could have designed them for free. But I didn't put my two sense in because I was not interested in the $5 sites you were offering.
Please learn how to read, so we can all get along. You don't want to pay $65 for my service...fine. Keep your mouth shut and don't discourage those who do.

 

[mole]

It's a no-brainer to get listed fast in Google. News sites, for example, get spidered every 24 hrs or less. But being search result 5,000,001 on page 50,000 isn't my idea of results.

The challenge is to get into the first page, rank high - and continue to remain in that position across the months to come.

Alternatively, you can buy Google Adwords

Sorry, but I really don't see why you should take members here for a joy ride :dead: We stand by each other, buddy. So if you get nasty, f**k off. Please.

 

[system0]

Originally posted by SkinzDotOrg
Fonzi, who asked for your opinion...you better go, cuz I hear ralf malf needs you to help him take care of some business......ayeeeeeeee

Looks like you better go after the 20 or so sites that offer paid inclusion in Intomi than as well. I am getting a little pissed here my self. Can't anybody read? If you are not interested, get the F*** out of the thread, this will turn ugly very quickly. Unless you want me to bash every thread you ever start. Besides Fonz I see you on geektalk.com offering all your crappy sites for sale. Some for a few hundred dollars, and I thought they were a rip off because I could have designed them for free. But I didn't put my two sense in because I was not interested in the $5 sites you were offering.
Please learn how to read, so we can all get along. You don't want to pay $65 for my service...fine. Keep your mouth shut and don't discourage those who do.

i really dont see the need to reply in this manner

in all the posts that have disagreed with your offer you have not once given a valid reason why your offer is worth it - instead you feel the need to resort to childish slanging matches

all i am doing and others is looking out for fellow members from being ripped off - other members have did the same for me

i dont see why you think it is neccessary to slag off my sites - especially since your site is just a portal which can be thrown up in minutes - but this is not the point

i agree that threads of this manner shouldnt be interfered with but you all you are doing is scamming good honest webmasters and i dont see why i shouldnt stick up for my buddies here

 

[David G]

Originally posted by gregr I can vouch for that. You was like a wounded lamb pounced on by a pack of wolves.

That sure was what happened alright and I still have the scars of battle and feel those sharp teeth biting into me even 6-mos later.

 

[mole]

Ignore him fonz, he's just a self-assuming wuzz who needs a LART.

Real, ouch :laugh:

 

[Jernet]

Ok, this is my last response here. No need for me to react in this manner, huh? When someone comes into my thread and tells me I am ripping people off...that is no reason to get upset? OK, I guess not. Obviously NamePopper, a respected moderator didn't think it was a big rip, neither did 4 other members. The point of this all being is this: I never stated, or will I ever state, that this is the only way to get into google. I can see if I said that, were I would be lieing. I guaranteed a quick listing, that's it. Some people know what I know, some don't. That's all there is to it. Maybe if you could read a bit, you would also have noted that I offer basic otimisation with this also, including title restructure, but let me guess, that's a rip off too? Considering a lot of people don't even know what a title tag is.
I really think there is a great amount of jealousy here. Why? Maybe because I am offering a service that others may already know about, but never cashed in on? It happens everyday. It's a service, that's it. Either you want it, or you don't.
That's why most people will never have a site listed in the top 100,000 let alone the top 20,000 at alexa either. Well I do. So when any of the loudmouths here, can even show me a somewhat decent site, that even has any significant value, then I will listen. Until then, your opinion is just that, your opinion.

Will all the google pros, please step up?

I am willing to not hold any grudges here on anyone, if you just drop it now. I really don't want to resort to having to crap on your threads like you have on mine. I mean, what's the sense? Do you have nothing better to do? Don't you have names to sell. That is what you are here for right? Or could it be because you really have no life, and have nothing better to do? That's stupid and lame.

Oh and Fonz, what site are you referring to as a portal and can be thrown up in minutes? Please don't even tell me you are talking about skinz.org. lol! If you are, you really have just proven that you don't know what you are talking about.

 

[Fearless]

Originally posted by SkinzDotOrg
Ok, this is my last response here.

:laugh:

 

[system0]

Originally posted by SkinzDotOrg
Ok, this is my last response here. No need for me to react in this manner, huh? When someone comes into my thread and tells me I am ripping people off...that is no reason to get upset? OK, I guess not. Obviously NamePopper, a respected moderator didn't think it was a big rip, neither did 4 other members. The point of this all being is this: I never stated, or will I ever state, that this is the only way to get into google. I can see if I said that, were I would be lieing. I guaranteed a quick listing, that's it. Some people know what I know, some don't. That's all there is to it. Maybe if you could read a bit, you would also have noted that I offer basic otimisation with this also, including title restructure, but let me guess, that's a rip off too? Considering a lot of people don't even know what a title tag is.
I really think there is a great amount of jealousy here. Why? Maybe because I am offering a service that others may already know about, but never cashed in on? It happens everyday. It's a service, that's it. Either you want it, or you don't.
That's why most people will never have a site listed in the top 100,000 let alone the top 20,000 at alexa either. Well I do. So when any of the loudmouths here, can even show me a somewhat decent site, that even has any significant value, then I will listen. Until then, your opinion is just that, your opinion.

Will all the google pros, please step up?

I am willing to not hold any grudges here on anyone, if you just drop it now. I really don't want to resort to having to crap on your threads like you have on mine. I mean, what's the sense? Do you have nothing better to do? Don't you have names to sell. That is what you are here for right? Or could it be because you really have no life, and have nothing better to do? That's stupid and lame.

Oh and Fonz, what site are you referring to as a portal and can be thrown up in minutes? Please don't even tell me you are talking about skinz.org. lol! If you are, you really have just proven that you don't know what you are talking about.

this has nothing to do with what sites members own or whatever - ive sold sites for thousands of dollars - it has nothing to do with this thread

why are you threatening to crap on other members threads because they disagree with you - that really is petty - you keep saying your willing not to hold any grudges - who here has grudges?

i have nothing against you but what you are doing is ripping members off - plain and simple - that is the bottom line

as far as i can see you know little about search engine optimsation but thats just my opinion - anyone who starts using alexa as examples of sites traffic hasnt got a clue in my opinion and why you keep asking for site examples is beyond me???

 

[mole]

Originally posted by SkinzDotOrg
Ok, this is my last response here. No need for me to react in this manner, huh? When someone comes into my thread and tells me I am ripping people off...that is no reason to get upset? OK, I guess not. Obviously NamePopper, a respected moderator didn't think it was a big rip, neither did 4 other members. The point of this all being is this: I never stated, or will I ever state, that this is the only way to get into google. I can see if I said that, were I would be lieing. I guaranteed a quick listing, that's it. Some people know what I know, some don't. That's all there is to it. Maybe if you could read a bit, you would also have noted that I offer basic otimisation with this also, including title restructure, but let me guess, that's a rip off too? Considering a lot of people don't even know what a title tag is.
I really think there is a great amount of jealousy here. Why? Maybe because I am offering a service that others may already know about, but never cashed in on? It happens everyday. It's a service, that's it. Either you want it, or you don't.
That's why most people will never have a site listed in the top 100,000 let alone the top 20,000 at alexa either. Well I do. So when any of the loudmouths here, can even show me a somewhat decent site, that even has any significant value, then I will listen. Until then, your opinion is just that, your opinion.

Will all the google pros, please step up?

I am willing to not hold any grudges here on anyone, if you just drop it now. I really don't want to resort to having to crap on your threads like you have on mine. I mean, what's the sense? Do you have nothing better to do? Don't you have names to sell. That is what you are here for right? Or could it be because you really have no life, and have nothing better to do? That's stupid and lame.

Oh and Fonz, what site are you referring to as a portal and can be thrown up in minutes? Please don't even tell me you are talking about skinz.org. lol! If you are, you really have just proven that you don't know what you are talking about.

izopod, is that you? :laugh:

 

[izopod]

Originally posted by mole


izopod, is that you? :laugh:

Actually it wasn't me.

SURGEON GENERAL WARNING: The next time somebody posts a ad on DNF, and another member comes behind them and says, "I Can do that for FREE!!!" i'm going to personally make sure that person is villafied.

So please, we said we'd give Skinz a chance. He's been "vouched" for by NP. If he hadn't, it would have stayed ugly. If people want to pay him $65 for his services, then he has a right to CHARGE whatever people are willing to pay. If a member thinks they can do it cheaper... BY ALL MEANS...go right ahead, but go start your OWN thread.

note: The key here is that he's been "vouched" for.

 

[izopod]

izopodian philosophy: The "LAND of FREE" is a place whereby you get something done at no cost to you, only to later have it later done for a fee.

 

[bidawinner]

http://www.google.com/webmasters/seo.html


Be careful if a company is secretive or won't clearly explain what they intend to do.
Ask for explanations if something is unclear. If an SEO creates deceptive or misleading content on your behalf, such as doorway pages or "throwaway" domains, your site could be removed entirely from Google's index. Ultimately, you are responsible for the actions of any companies you hire, so it's best to be sure you know exactly how they intend to "help" you.


No one can guarantee a #1 ranking on Google.
Beware of SEO's that claim to guarantee rankings, or that claim a "special relationship" with Google, or that claim to have a "priority submit" to Google. There is no priority submit for Google. In fact, the only way to submit a site to Google directly is by using the page at http://www.google.com/addurl.html. You can do this yourself at no cost whatsoever.

I dont have a problem at all with Skinz offering to submit , and charging $65 ..some people really are that lazy and $65 is nothing to them; I think it's stupid to pay for something you can do yourself in 2 seconds..and I think it is unethical to take advantage of people that dont realize how easy it is...that said..

As long as it dosent bother his conscience ..go for it.. BUT at the same time you had better be thick enough skinned to realize most people will find it sleazy and you are going to take heat for it.
And as fonz and mole pointed out many members will "help" fellow members on stuff like this for free because it is so easy..these types of "help" are simply favor type things.. the member you help will return the favor down the road..

Your "service" is more of a moral issue .and we all have different sets of morals...Certain things that we think are acceptable and what isnt..

So I guess the bottom line is ..sure you can offer such a service..just dont get all bent out of shape when people that know better turn up the heat.

And dont be so suprised that members here are looking after each other..

IZOPOD is correct..charge what ever you like.. and we are correct..expect the heat

 

[NamePopper.com]

I can't believe the direction some of these responses have taken. Let me at least clarify my position...

This is like an experiment to me. I am working on several sites at the same time (my Robot site is almost ready) and I have a couple of other sites that are sitting on the back burner at the moment - and I haven't had a chance to do anything with them. So I figured why not see what happens here - and how fast it can get listed - and how good of a ranking it can get - etc. - so it's an experiment and I'm curious. That's not hard to understand.

I don't go around wasting money - and I'm far from a newbie. It's an experiment. I'm curious. I want to see what happens. How fast? How high? Etc. - etc.

I realize the heat is not directed at me - but I wish people would chill out and give Skinz a break. When people start talking about 'morals' and slinging around the phrase "ripping people off" like it was nothing - then I think it's getting too serious. I was actually looking at this as a fun exercise that *might* surprise me.

Am I & Izopod the only people who are open minded enough to even give it a chance? Or do we now label anyone who offers a service (for a fee) that we *think* we can do just as good ourselves (for free) - as a crook and a scam artist?

I can clean up my house myself for free. However - if I'm too busy or don't feel like it - I don't expect someone to come over to my house and clean it for me free. I also don't expect my neighbors to be there yelling 'crook' & 'scam artist' when they arrive.

Geez.... this was supposed to be a fun experiment - but I'm almost sorry I even got involved.

 

[NamePopper.com]

After talking to Jermy - the decision was made to close this thread now. Things are getting a little too heated - and he does not want the thread to cause any further distractions to the forum. It was never his intention to create a bad vibe or bad feeling here. I respect that and this thread is now closed.

We may be on the brink of war in Iraq..... but we don't need one here in the advertising forum.