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[izopod]

izopod wrote:

Many businesses do many things.

Some are successful, some are flops.

In my opinion, marketing under .BIZ usually indicates the latter..

As we know a solid business plan is the key to any online venture. That and the willingness to work 24/7 to make sure the plan is carried out flawlessly.

I'd have to agree with you though certain online .biz domains will definitely kill the venture from the get-go, such as using "CarbohydrateDiet.biz" for an online diet site. However on the same token certain other .biz names would definitely help the site be recognized, thus creating a higher probability of it's success.

Example:

www.Franchisee.biz has received 96 uniques since 5/1/04. Not too bad. Not great by .com standards, but does indicate it's "type-in" capabilities. The future of this domain looks good to me from the standpoint that .biz will only get more visibility as time progresses. Also to counter your point, the .biz on the end of this domain will definitely not hurt it, and would only lend credibilty to the overall success of the site. That and a decent layout when visitors come to the site. In my research I found it interesting how many potential "Franchisee's" there are out there. Many boomers are finding they don't have enough to retire on, but don't want to keep working for the same company. They want to work for themselves. This will be a huge market. Franchise's offer quite a bit to this market as you don't have to do a lot of the stuff you'd have to do with a business that just started, like brand awareness, built-in customers, etc.

www.Anywhere.biz - This name will come to mean "Unwire" for businesses. I would even go so far as to say the strengh of this business will be it's branding power.

In a nutshell. Business is about finding opportunities, and jumping on them before all else. The .com world is filled with stories about those who stuck there necks out to do just this. There is no difference with those people advertising their .biz name now. The fundamentals are still the same.

izopodian philsophy: I believe in the 95/5 theory on "What will work, and what won't": 95 percent research, 5% comment period.

 

[David G]

...example: www.Franchisee.biz has received 96 uniques since 5/1/04. Not too bad. Not great by .com standards, but does indicate it's "type-in" capabilities....

Agree, 96 since May 1 is good but where does it get that traffic from? It's odd as when I test the domain uisng my newly improved traffic potential analysis tool (which checks 13 different criterias), it would appear to get zilch traffic and no likely typeins?

It also has no returns from OV Suggestion Tool with the ext, and only a small OV number (865) even without the ext, indicating it is not a common word. Also, zero links found at the major SE's. The domain only has 1 return in Google and that 1 return is from a DNF post.

P.S. I have a few active websites with even more popular info & biz names, IMO, and they get zilch traffic, almost zero, ever after lots of SEO and being listed in the SE's and some links.

 

[DaddyHalbucks]

actnow wrote:

And, I would speculate that maybe 1 million are being
hoarded by "our domain club".
++++++++++++++++++++++++

LOL.

That number is WAY off.

BuyDomains alone owns 300,000 domains..

 

[actnow]

actnow wrote:

And, I would speculate that maybe 1 million are being
hoarded by "our domain club".
++++++++++++++++++++++++
LOL.
That number is WAY off.
BuyDomains alone owns 300,000 domains..

I thought about that. However, BD's 300,000 includes, .net, .org, .info
.us and .biz

I speculated that BD probably has over 100,000 .com Then, you include
Cayman, Steve, FMA, ULt., and a dozen other major domain holders. And, the
number might be more than 1 mil. But, probably less than 2 million. Which, is
still less than 10% of the registered .com domains.

 

[izopod]

Agree, 96 since May 1 is good but where does it get that traffic from? It's odd as when I test the domain uisng my newly improved traffic potential analysis tool (which checks 13 different criterias), it would appear to get zilch traffic and no likely typeins?.

http://www.franchisee.biz/stats.gif btw, I lied. There is actually 99 uniques, since May 3, 2004.

Here is a typical visitor to Franchisee.biz: http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl?queryinput=! NET-68-72-0-0-1

It also has no returns from OV Suggestion Tool with the ext, and only a small OV number (865) even without the ext, indicating it is not a common word.

Try this "tool": Click Here. This will take you to Google. Look on the right side of the page... How many Sponsored links do you see? Anything over 6 shows that it is a "good", "targetted", commerical word. Remember. Common words in domains are only good as how "commericial" they are. Commercial names: "Sports", "News", "Sex", "Franchise" and yes "Franchisee".

OVT only tells "half" the story. If you are relying on this as an indicator of how well a domain will do, you probably have paid too much in the past for domains. Which it sounds like you did on one anyways.

P.S. I have a few active websites with even more popular info & biz names, IMO, and they get zilch traffic, almost zero, ever after lots of SEO and being listed in the SE's and some links.

I'm not sure about .info, but the strength of of some .biz domains lie in their "representative" nature. Much like some .org names. Meaning, the word .biz denotes that an industry name should precede it. Therefore, it would make sense that the best .biz names out there would be names that would definitely describe an industry. These "industry" .biz names would surely receive more typein's than other common generic words like, "Green.biz", or "Terror.biz"

So to answer your question. "Tea" (as an example) maybe more of a popular word then "Franchisee", but when it comes to the .biz name the latter word probably gets more uniques then the former because of the "following" franchisee's have for their industry.

Hope that gives you a clearer picture about .biz

 

[izopod]

One thing worth mentioning: Not all domains are created equal.

 

[adoptabledomains]

Yep, and it was horror.biz - a complete mismatch for the extension!

I don't think it's a mismatch. I would guess there is a lot of business done These areas that to me fit pretty well:

Horror films
Horror stories & books
Horror (Halloween) costumes
"Haunted House" attractions

If you do a google search for "horror business" (with the quotes), you get 5580 hits, with the first listing being horrorbiz.de, which appears to be a record company named "Horror Business". They use the term "Horror Biz" on their front page. I wouldn't be surprised if they are the buyer.

There also appears to be a band or song with the same name with a lot of lyrics links using the exact term.

 

[David G]

http://www.franchisee.biz/stats.gif...Try this "tool": Click Here. This will take you to Google. Look on the right side of the page... How many Sponsored links do you see? Anything over 6 shows that it is a "good", "targetted", commerical word. Remember. Common words in domains are only good as how "commericial" they are. Commercial names: "Sports", "News", "Sex", "Franchise" and yes "Franchisee".....OVT only tells "half" the story. If you are relying on this as an indicator of how well a domain will do, you probably have paid too much in the past for domains.....hope that gives you a clearer picture about .biz

What you said really does not help with a clearer picture at all. I agree with your premise that the sponsored links on the right side of Google means its a good commercial value word but totally fail to understand the connection between that and your domain getting typein traffic.

Though the fact it is a commercial word is a nice plus that does NOT seem to indicate anyone is actually typing-in your biz name into their browser window or a search box. Contrarily, my 13 indicators all seem to say zilch in all categories across the board.

I really think many of us putting a lot of value on Suggestion Tool numbers is a SIGNIFICANTLY better indicator of tyoein traffic potential than your reliance on Google sponsored links. Those sponsored links merely use your keyword in their AdWords Acct as one of many keywords but no doubt are not using the word plus the biz extension.

Sorry, I question if franchisee.biz gets any type-ins at all, just my opinion. I am not doubting your traffic figures just saying it is very unlikely to be coming from natural type-ins. I may be wrong of course.

P.S. Are you filtering out your own visits (or friends - forums posts etc) to the page? Many of us do not take that into consideration, and those numbers can add a lot.

 

[izopod]

Though the fact it is a commercial word is a nice plus that does NOT seem to indicate anyone is actually typing-in your biz name into their browser window or a search box. Contrarily, my 13 indicators all seem to say zilch in all categories across the board..

Did those same "13" indicators give you the green light to purchase those .biz/.info names that aren't getting any traffic?

Things that make you go hmmm.....

Those sponsored links merely use your keyword in their AdWords Acct as one of many keywords but no doubt are not using the word plus the biz extension.

I showed you the "Sponsored" links method as way to let you see how "little" the number 875 next to "franchisee" means in OVT.

Sorry, I question if franchisee.biz gets any type-ins at all, just my opinion. I am not doubting your traffic figures just saying it is very unlikely to be coming from natural type-ins. I may be wrong of course.

You are free to question my stats, however Awstat is usually the universally accepted program to gauge the quality of uniques. Reason: It excludes "bots", etc.

P.S. Are you filtering out your own visits (or friends - forums posts etc) to the page? Many of us do not take that into consideration, and those numbers can add a lot.

I probably have about 5 hits on the site this month, however it would only count me as (1). As far as family and friends, they don't know about any of my sites. The only one would be my wife who only uses the internet for email and checking out travel sites.

btw: If you had a problem with Franchisee.biz. Wait till you see, Anywhere.biz

http://www.anywhere.biz/stats.gif - 288 since 5/1/04
http://www.anywhere.biz/screen_shot_1.gif - 623/ 1-31 April 2004

 

[mole]

From another domain forum:

Mole: "According to whos.sc, .BIZ seems to be forever floating in the quagmire of the under 1 million regs.

Does this mean .BIZ is as dead as flotsam and jetsom?"

hmm... I need a spellchecker

 

[nicorlino]

It would be interesting to hear about advertising campaigns in German using the .de

Is .com going out style over there?

I do like the alternative extentions, yet even I sometimes say the domain name with .com instead of the correct .us, .info version.

However, a heavy advertising campaign using .us or .info or .biz will change all that.

.com never was the first choice in Germany. .de always was. .com is popular and has lots of type ins with german words, as it is the number 1 alternative to .de in Germany. .info is very strong as well in Germany. .de is used in advertising everywhere in Germany. Please note that there are 7611115 .de domains registered at the moment which makes .de number two world wide right behind .com.

Best Regards
Nico

 

[gogeorge]

.com never was the first choice in Germany. .de always was. .com is popular and has lots of type ins with german words, as it is the number 1 alternative to .de in Germany. .info is very strong as well in Germany. .de is used in advertising everywhere in Germany. Please note that there are 7611115 .de domains registered at the moment which makes .de number two world wide right behind .com.

Best Regards
Nico

That helps to explain the sale of iqtest.de

 

[nicorlino]

it gets xxxx type ins daily and according to the new owner this one already looks like he is going to earn that amount of money back in a appropriate period of time. He owns some of the best german .de domain names and makes his living from domains.

Best Regards
Nico

 

[Keyworddomains.com]

wenn ich das so lese, habe ich meine intelligenztest.com wohl viel zu billig abgegeben ;-)

 

[nicorlino]

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