Adsense for Domains Opening Up

[BostonDomainer]

This service doesn't seem to be very promising for domainers.

The parked pages don't seem to be very effective.

It would be interesting to see if the revenue is higher than other parking companies.

It is important to note that Google does not allow promotion of parked domains. From Adsense for Domains Terms and Conditions:
"Except for related Google queries and end user license and queries entered into Links, all queries must originate from individual human end users inputting a URL directly into the address bar of an Internet browser."

You say that this service [does not seem to be very promising to domainers] but in that conjuncture you ere because you group all aspect of domaining to "domainers". It's simply another case of the few i.e bulk owners being top tier in a limited space i.e domain ownership i.e. It's like anything else in life. Consider this 'so-called' benefit to the equivalent of a welfare package' It's meant to move a fickle faction of the "lowly" and in domaining case... those with quantity which in numbers 'producing' traffic but not quality high end sought after traffic. This is simply a rough run through of what seems to be the case... let me finish this beer and I'll edit this post and or revisek:. But I do hope you see the basics of my premise.

 

[tldrental]

My thought is that it is much better to develop a mini site. I will venture to say that Google in time will fine tune this business model. Keep in mind always in "Google" favor.

It will be interesting to see how these pages rank with in Google since there hand is in the bucket on this one.

FYI, Parked.com with some of the added functionality if utilized is more or less creating a minisite and time consuming at that if you customize your parked site. Just as time consuming as developing your own minisite via Wordpress, X-SitePro, or MinisitePublisher. Not to mention with much less features.

Rich

 

[BostonDomainer]

FYI, Parked.com with some of the added functionality if utilized is more or less creating a minisite and time consuming at that if you customize your parked site. Just as time consuming as developing your own minisite via Wordpress, X-SitePro, or MinisitePublisher. Not to mention with much less features.

What are you some puppet for 'massah'... Parked and Wordpress et al are 2 different things operating on 2 very distinct and different business models. Juxtaposing Parked.com with Wordpress/ wp type sites is to imply that they beckon a similarity that beckons integration--- which they do not. What you essentially are suggesting is a backward/reverse engineering venture.. in as much that sites like Dreamhost and other in the early 2000s ventured in. They gave free domains, they controlled the header ads on people's site. Think about it. Its sad.:disappointed:

 

[tldrental]

What are you some puppet for 'massah'... Parked and Wordpress et al are 2 different things operating on 2 very distinct and different business models. Juxtaposing Parked.com with Wordpress/ wp type sites is to imply that they beckon a similarity that beckons integration--- which they do not. What you essentially are suggesting is a backward/reverse engineering venture.. in as much that sites like Dreamhost and other in the early 2000s ventured in. They gave free domains, they controlled the header ads on people's site. Think about it. Its sad.:disappointed:

... Um yeah that's a point of view. One may be an apple, and the other an orange, they both taste different, look different, they even both smell different, but at the end of they day they serve the same exact purpose in life as food. Giving the body nourishment.

Domain parking and monetized minisites serve the exact same purpose and that is to give the body nourishment (another words money in your pocket)

They are just two different ways for the same end game. Build domains value, revenue, and viability to resell to end-user.

What makes me sad is people who have tunnel vision for parking domain names and cant see outside there domain parking blinders. In case you didn't know "The World Is Not Flat"

I am not trying to make this personal at you, just general statement mostly.

However I don't appreciate your hostility in your response to my comment. If you have a grudge against "massah'" keep it between you and him.

I will pretend your anger was misguided and it never happened.

 

[HuntingMoon]

the landers look like shit imho but google has the resources and inventory to dial it in over the long haul. there will be room for third parties who provide a value-added service to the equation.

nice thomas friedman reference above - the world is flat was a super piece. hot flat and crowded is supposed to be great too.

we always wanted to go direct, because that seems like a logical move. i'd rather get robbed by google instead of google and then also a parking company with their arbitrary shaves.

we also have developed tons of sites and have our own affiliate programs (cpa), so we have never had parking tunnelvision. we also have experimented with mini-sites and they may be ok for certain categories of domains like geo names/rick latona names-- but, the 400 page templates with articles etc. are so clearly spam sites to google that they do not generate any love at all in our experience. some of them are not even showing up in the index anymore.

wordpress is great but high maintenance. we do not own any tm names, so i can't comment on that other than the craigslist name in this thread gave me a chuckle.

 

[tldrental]

........ -- but, the 400 page templates with articles etc. are so clearly spam sites to google that they do not generate any love at all in our experience. some of them are not even showing up in the index anymore.

This is very true if you do not keep your minisite fresh by adding fresh article a few times a month or two, content re-write if you have automated content feed or RSS. You should never have 100% automated content, it must always be the marriage of automated content with hand written content and a few other very small and over looked but colorful techniques.

I do park domains, mainly with Parked.com or Fabulous, but only until I am ready to develop the domain into a mini site or something else.

 

[maxximus]

wow, this is increbile

good news for all domainers

 

[tldrental]

wow, this is increbile

good news for all domainers

lol, why is this such great news. I am wondering about your thoughts on this?

 

[BostonDomainer]

... Um yeah that's a point of view. One may be an apple, and the other an orange, they both taste different, look different, they even both smell different, but at the end of they day they serve the same exact purpose in life as food. Giving the body nourishment.

Domain parking and monetized minisites serve the exact same purpose and that is to give the body nourishment (another words money in your pocket)

They are just two different ways for the same end game. Build domains value, revenue, and viability to resell to end-user.

What makes me sad is people who have tunnel vision for parking domain names and cant see outside there domain parking blinders. In case you didn't know "The World Is Not Flat"

I am not trying to make this personal at you, just general statement mostly.

However I don't appreciate your hostility in your response to my comment. If you have a grudge against "massah'" keep it between you and him.

I will pretend your anger was misguided and it never happened.

My friend... I am not angry... this is my angry face :veryangry:... as of now i am still...:asleep: more so or less. I am simply engaging discourse which perhaps may elevate us all in approaching this news in such a matter that renders it beneficial. I appreciate your point of view, but in all my years I have never taste an apple that taste like an orange or an orange that taste like an apple. Is it one of those "I am Apple , you are PC" labeling things? Nonetheless.... back on topic...

If we explore your apple orange theory and extend it to perhaps strawberries and for argument sake nickname it, oh, let's say N.A.M.B.L.A.... I think with this Google intrusion we can say, well.... in the long run... we are all screwed. Whether you like it or not.

 

[anatoly]

i wonder what their policy will be for TM and non TM typos.

 

[tldrental]

..........Google intrusion ...

I cant agree with you more, I think Google is acting on greed. Really only time will tell on how this affects people like you and me regardless of how we manage our domain names.

You never know this might be a good way to get a freshly registered domain names indexed faster by Google. Which may be a good stepping stone for a domain name before doing something with it, even if moving it to Parked.com, but most likely just a fantasy

 

[Cashcows]

lol, why is this such great news. I am wondering about your thoughts on this?

This is good news becuase we can finally get the middle men out the way that have been controlling our ability to generate parking revenue while they make money off us and buy domains from us at cut rate prices based on the multiples of the crappy revenue share they give us.

They talk in terms of multiples of revenue based on our stats, yet as soon as they buy it that domain will produce more income from for them then us just becuase they have a direct feed.

We have been wanting transparency for awhile. Well now we might not need it we just skip parking companies altogether.

It will also take down Jerk off companies like Senzo/Big Jumbo that screw me over and dropped my payout from about $120 a day down to $30 a day just becuase I was only sending about 20000 visitors a month and was not one of the big guys. Mind you they did not say my traffic quality was poor or that they did not want my traffic only that becuase I did not have more of it they were going to pay me less and they did it without any warning. Which is totally screwed. Becuase I was seeing my rev increase I based my parking business model on future projections and was buying new domains heavily and it was all working until they got greedy!

I was reading an article about How Great the founder of Directi is and how much money he has made at such a young age. Yeah by screwing over the people that use his service. They penalize you for being a small player while they make millions off your traffic.

When you see one day you are making a payout of $120 and the next $30 from the exact same traffic you see that how manipulated this this parking industry is and what scam is it for us to park names.

I see both sides it's their business they can charge what they want, they are offering us a service and we are free to take or leave it, all true. But the terms are so much in their favor it sucks for us.

Hopefully now the playing filed will be leveled out. I wonder if this is why Skenzo switched from google's feed to yahoo? When they switched I went from that $30 a day to about $10 if that.

So I left parking all together used my knowledge that I had acquired over the last 10 years and stared going the affiliate route with my adult domains to I make between $50 to $100 a day or more when their are special promo days. Seems to be growing as well from repeat traffic.

But I would like to actually make some money on my non-adult names and I am hoping I can do that with Google Adsense for domains now.

Yahoo might follow suit all of these companies want to make money in the crappy economy and they don't need to give middle men a cut. Looks like the parking industry maybe on it's way out.

I am sure google will improve the pages and even have an API for those that want to do some programming on this end. )

The other good news is that if we are making more money parking the prices of domains will increase as well especially revenue/traffic names. Also that Google the big boy on the block is working with domainers now also give more press pr and creditability to this industry.

 

[Sonny Banks]

This is good news becuase we can finally get the middle men out the way that have been controlling our ability to generate parking revenue while they make money off us and buy domains from us at cut rate prices based on the multiples of the crappy revenue share they give us.

They talk in terms of multiples of revenue based on our stats, yet as soon as they buy it that domain will produce more income from for them then us just becuase they have a direct feed.

We have been wanting transparency for awhile. Well now we might not need it we just skip parking companies altogether.

It will also take down Jerk off companies like Senzo/Big Jumbo that screw me over and dropped my payout from about $120 a day down to $30 a day just becuase I was only sending about 20000 visitors a month and was not one of the big guys. Mind you they did not say my traffic quality was poor or that they did not want my traffic only that becuase I did not have more of it they were going to pay me less and they did it without any warning. Which is totally screwed. Becuase I was seeing my rev increase I based my parking business model on future projections and was buying new domains heavily and it was all working until they got greedy!

I was reading an article about How Great the founder of Directi is and how much money he has made at such a young age. Yeah by screwing over the people that use his service. They penalize you for being a small player while they make millions off your traffic.

When you see one day you are making a payout of $120 and the next $30 from the exact same traffic you see that how manipulated this this parking industry is and what scam is it for us to park names.

I see both sides it's their business they can charge what they want, they are offering us a service and we are free to take or leave it, all true. But the terms are so much in their favor it sucks for us.

Hopefully now the playing filed will be leveled out. I wonder if this is why Skenzo switched from google's feed to yahoo? When they switched I went from that $30 a day to about $10 if that.

So I left parking all together used my knowledge that I had acquired over the last 10 years and stared going the affiliate route with my adult domains to I make between $50 to $100 a day or more when their are special promo days. Seems to be growing as well from repeat traffic.

But I would like to actually make some money on my non-adult names and I am hoping I can do that with Google Adsense for domains now.

Yahoo might follow suit all of these companies want to make money in the crappy economy and they don't need to give middle men a cut. Looks like the parking industry maybe on it's way out.

I am sure google will improve the pages and even have an API for those that want to do some programming on this end. )

The other good news is that if we are making more money parking the prices of domains will increase as well especially revenue/traffic names. Also that Google the big boy on the block is working with domainers now also give more press pr and creditability to this industry.

Exactly what I think too.
Well said.

 

[nameadvertising.com]

Yahoo may, (may) buy Marchex.

I hated those parasites - them Parking companies. Sucked domainer blood for far too long.

 

[H2FC]

Obviously google has an ulterior motive. They're not doing it just to help the little guy domain owner. They're always trying to improve their profits and I suspect they feel there's a big market for lower price ads on plain wrapper domains straight out of the box without any content. It may be a completely new lower price structure for such ads and if so that will equate to lower payouts to the domain owner. Whatever happens you can bet your booty google will be the one to benefit...not us.

 

[Seraphim]

I took a stroll a couple days ago through some webmaster forums to see what their opinion is on this subject, and good grief are domainers hated in some circles. A strange land exists where entitlement issues meet low budgets, all wrapped in some socialist overtone that only applies to the internet. Some of these people actually think direct type-in traffic is a myth, if not an outright fraud. Google has apparently joined us all on the dark side it seems.

"I'll give you $28 for realestate.com, and ignore the highly unethical fact that you have decided to park your own domain. Please send me your PayPal address." :worried:

 

[tldrental]

"I'll give you $28 for realestate.com, and ignore the highly unethical fact that you have decided to parked your own domain. Please send me your PayPal address." :worried:

is this what someone told you on a webmaster forum?

 

[Seraphim]

is this what someone told you on a webmaster forum?

Was a reference to all the penny offers I've received from the "puritan webmaster types" that feel they are entitled to a domain I own, simply because it's undeveloped. A lot of you know the type I'm talking about, they're always pushy, rude, and top of the correspondence chain off with a temper tantrum laced with insults.

I won't plug the forums where I encountered these sorts of views, but they aren't too far off the beaten path.

 

[Sonny Banks]

I took a stroll a couple days ago through some webmaster forums to see what their opinion is on this subject, and good grief are domainers hated in some circles. A strange land exists where entitlement issues meet low budgets, all wrapped in some socialist overtone that only applies to the internet. Some of these people actually think direct type-in traffic is a myth, if not an outright fraud. Google has apparently joined us all on the dark side it seems.

"I'll give you $28 for realestate.com, and ignore the highly unethical fact that you have decided to park your own domain. Please send me your PayPal address." :worried:

Invite these webmasters on DNF...3 weeks and they will start domaining

 

[Gerry]

i wonder what their policy will be for TM and non TM typos.

Their policy regarding TM and TM typos are very, very clear - NO.

Some names will be purely up for interpretation.

For instance, Sedo will not allow any domain name with the word Olympic(s), Olypiad(s), Olympia because a German company has the TM on this. Sedo is German.

This is a stretch because companies use Olympics or Olympia in their name, each a unique and separate TM or SM in itself.

Obviously google has an ulterior motive. They're not doing it just to help the little guy domain owner.

There is no ulterior motive.

Google and it's CEO have made it very clear that they are in business to make money, cut out the middle man, and be the preferred search engine of choice.

It is almost a 'wal-mart' philosophy or business model and ethic to drive the competition out of business.

Question is, are we the middle man? Doubtful.

Lets say there are 4 billion registered web names. But 75% of those supposed "websites" are nothing more than a parked page.

Parking companies came along when Google was trying to gain market share and negotiated a deal saying, "we'll supply you 2 million hits a day. What will you give us?"

Rather than negotiate anymore, I think Google may be saying, "You know those 3 billion parked domains? I think we want them."

We'll see.

Google makes no qualms about their goal of being Number One on the Internet and mobile internet.