china bans individuals from registering domains

[snicksnack]

"noone" gets his feet in the market there. "all" big western brands, fail there, they can only wish to get a chunk of their market (especially for IT brands, like google, ebay, yahoo)

You are right, many examples of failed trails. Why did they fail? Because they didn't understand how the market works and how Chinese people think. If you let a Derman design Disney Land and and Italian manage it, also would never really work ;-)

 

[DaddyHalbucks]

wondering how many people giving staements here about China have actually ever visited the country, left alone seen the development over the last 20 years.

Who cares about beautiful skyscrapers, if the land underneath was stolen from a elderly couple who were muscled out by government thugs?

Would one have to jump off a bridge to know it is not a good thing to do?

Is there anybody who really values freedom who would want to live in, or visit, a place without basic human rights and freedoms?

I am sure the Chinese people are good people. I feel sorry for them living under the thumb of their government.

I want nothing to do with the country the way it exists now.

The good news: just as the fax machine killed the USSR, the super fax machine known as the internet will probably kill the Communist government in China.

 

[Anthony Ng]

"noone" gets his feet in the market there. "all" big western brands, fail there, they can only wish to get a chunk of their market (especially for IT brands, like google, ebay, yahoo)

A LOT of "Western" brands have already made it there (China), from banks (like Chase and Citibank), auto manufacturers (incl. GM, of course) to fast food chains (e.g. KFC and Starbucks). Many of them are famous household names in China, for those who are not aware of it.

 

[DaddyHalbucks]

Every state has their own policies to fit into their society, why does China need to adopt "something very simliar to the US Constitution" in order to make it a better state as "you" wanted?

Yes, a so-called Communist state is uprising while the demcoracy state is sinking, i wonder why?

If "every state has the right to determine their own policies" --do I also have the right to decline to participate?

A "democracy" is not failing. The USA is sinking precisely because our government is taking over powers to which it is not entitled. We are failing because we have lost touch with our founding principle of limited government.

 

[snicksnack]

Who cares about beautiful skyscrapers, if the land underneath was stolen from a elderly couple who were muscled out by government thugs?

right and the native american indians handed over the land to all the foreign people becuase they wanted to...

Wondering how ignorant people can be. It was on CNN so it must be true sort of attitude.

Stop using your computer, for sure it has parts in it which are made in China and you wouldn't want to contribute to the exploitation of the workers here.

btw, let's have a look at Australia and their censorship

http://www.prisonplanet.com/oz-anti-censorship-site-is-censored.html
http://www.itwire.com/content/view/30208/53/
http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/Australian-Filter-Protest-Site-Yanked-Offline-106083
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Australian-Filter-Protest-Site-Yanked-Offline-106083

 

[why123]

If "every state has the right to determine their own policies" --do I also have the right to decline to participate?

A "democracy" is not failing. The USA is sinking precisely because our government is taking over powers to which it is not entitled. We are failing because we have lost touch with our founding principle of limited government.

Did Chinese people tell you to participate their policies? you have every right not to, you know. but you don't see Chinese people going around the world and say whichever state needs to do something simliar to them in order to see a nice place they wanted do they?

don't make excuses, the Fact stays the same, China is rising even with a "communist" party, the USA is sinking with multiple political parties under the so called "democracy" consitituion.

everyone in the world (including Chinese in China) know that China's government is full of corruptions, but how many people in the US know and are willing to believe their government is corrupted to a certain extent too? why not stop complaining about the others and stick to your own issues first? the US of A really isn't the world cop you know.

 

[DaddyHalbucks]

right and the native american indians handed over the land to all the foreign people becuase they wanted to...

Wondering how ignorant people can be. It was on CNN so it must be true sort of attitude.

Stop using your computer, for sure it has parts in it which are made in China and you wouldn't want to contribute to the exploitation of the workers here.

btw, let's have a look at Australia and their censorship

http://www.prisonplanet.com/oz-anti-censorship-site-is-censored.html
http://www.itwire.com/content/view/30208/53/
http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/Australian-Filter-Protest-Site-Yanked-Offline-106083
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Australian-Filter-Protest-Site-Yanked-Offline-106083

Events hundreds of years ago seem remote. Is that your best argument? However, it is curious to me that Native Americans today get so much special treatment, huge government entitlements, special scholarships, special rights, special casino licenses, etc.. --but they still seem helpless and behind the curve as a group.

I don't watch CNN. I stopped watching that network 6-12 months ago when I realized I was only getting a fraction of the story.

I didn't realize Australia was engaged in wholesale oppression. It is still not clear to me that they are silencing wide segments of their population. It also appears that the registrant in the cited case lied and then backpeddled. What does it have to do with censoring millions of people in China?

 

[snicksnack]

Events hundreds of years ago seem remote. . --but they still seem helpless and behind the curve as a group.

So becuase it was hundreds of years ago makes it okay ? the 2nd world war is over 50 years ago, so the actions taken there are also okay now ?

Where do you get your vast knowledge of other countries from? In how many countries have you lived and worked or at least visited for a couple of weeks ?

 

[DaddyHalbucks]

Did Chinese people tell you to participate their policies? you have every right not to, you know. but you don't see Chinese people going around the world and say whichever state needs to do something simliar to them in order to see a nice place they wanted do they?

don't make excuses, the Fact stays the same, China is rising even with a "communist" party, the USA is sinking with multiple political parties under the so called "democracy" consitituion.

everyone in the world (including Chinese in China) know that China's government is full of corruptions, but how many people in the US know and are willing to believe their government is corrupted to a certain extent too? why not stop complaining about the others and stick to your own issues first? the US of A really isn't the world cop you know.

I don't need the Chinese government's permission to criticize them --that's the beauty of being a free American.



The USA is sinking BECAUSE of a left leaning government that has forgotten our founding principles including small and limited government. The Obama administration is ignoring the US Constitution. China is not rising BECAUSE of a Communist government, it is rising DESPITE a Communist government.

You make a lot of unfounded assumptions. How do you know that I haven't fought government corruption here in the USA? The FACT of the matter is I have fought government corruption here in the USA. For over 5 years, I was a volunteer who fought for better government.

The world is a better place because the USA was the "world cop." Nazi Germany, fascist Italy, Imperial Japan, the Soviet Union, Saddam Hussein --these brutal regimes fell by our hands. Feel free to offer your gratitude at any time.

One more thing, don't count us out just yet. The American people are amazingly resilient.

:smilewinkgrin:

 

[italiandragon]

You are right, many examples of failed trails. Why did they fail? Because they didn't understand how the market works and how Chinese people think. If you let a Derman design Disney Land and and Italian manage it, also would never really work ;-)

Now, you are writing BS sorry!

While before i had to agree with you and the fact that Chinese government is doing a good job, indeed protecting their own companies over foreigners like google, Yahoo, etc. is nothing but what a good strategy to protect local business otherwise you end up like other countries and I can mention a few starting from Australia that most big business is being bought from foreign companies (China in particular) and at the end Australia will be left behind.

But now you come up saying that Italians can`t manage it?

That`s BIIIIGGG BS sorry.

Since the world was created the best thing Italians has proved to do well was to manage businesses.

Whether it was Ancient rome, or Little Italy in New York , one thing Italians did well: business.

Look at Mr Latona and his father/grandfather story just published on DNJournal just to get an example.

But I still agree with the rest of the topic and invite the "born in the USA generation" to hurry and wake up because the "Made in China" generation is already buying half the world. It won`t be too far that American children will learn chinese at school as second language in order to keep up with the new economy.

 

[snicksnack]

Where were the world cops during the hutu and tutsi genocide ?

Didn't the "free" people of America vote for Obama ?

Now, you are writing BS sorry!

While before i had to agree with you and the fact that Chinese government is doing a good job, indeed protecting their own companies over foreigners like google, Yahoo, etc. is nothing but what a good strategy to protect local business otherwise you end up like other countries and I can mention a few starting from Australia that most big business is being bought from foreign companies (China in particular) and at the end Australia will be left behind.

But now you come up saying that Italians can`t manage it?

That`s BIIIIGGG BS sorry.

Since the world was created the best thing Italians has proved to do well was to manage businesses.

Whether it was Ancient rome, or Little Italy in New York , one thing Italians did well: business.

Look at Mr Latona and his father/grandfather story just published on DNJournal just to get an example.

But I still agree with the rest of the topic and invite the "born in the USA generation" to hurry and wake up because the "Made in China" generation is already buying half the world. It won`t be too far that American children will learn chinese at school as second language in order to keep up with the new economy.

I guess you didn't understand what I was trying to say. A German shouldn't design disney land because it would be boring, the Italians shouldn't manage it becuase they like to take to many Siestas ;-)

btw: that was not a serious remark, rather a quote from one of the theme park inventors...

"But I still agree with the rest of the topic and invite the "born in the USA generation" to hurry and wake up because the "Made in China" generation is already buying half the world. It won`t be too far that American children will learn chinese at school as second language in order to keep up with the new economy"

I like this one !

 

[italiandragon]

I don't need the Chinese government's permission to criticize them --that's the beauty of being a free American.



The USA is sinking BECAUSE of a left leaning government that has forgotten our founding principles including small and limited government. The Obama administration is ignoring the US Constitution. China is not rising BECAUSE of a Communist government, it is rising DESPITE a Communist government.

You make a lot of unfounded assumptions. How do you know that I haven't fought government corruption here in the USA? The FACT of the matter is I have fought government corruption here in the USA. For over 5 years, I was a volunteer who fought for better government.

The world is a better place because the USA was the "world cop." Nazi Germany, fascist Italy, Imperial Japan, the Soviet Union, Saddam Hussein --these brutal regimes fell by our hands. Feel free to offer your gratitude at any time.

One more thing, don't count us out just yet. The American people are amazingly resilient.

:smilewinkgrin:

I am NOT taking this crap. The US got off from their ass in 1939 or so , ONLY because the NAZIs were worrying them too much but IGNORED an appeal from Italy several years before while they were already warned of the brutalities going on in Europe and how many people were killed.

And as far as Saddam, where were you when the US financed him against Russia in order to control the oil in that region?

The US is sinking simply because the US philosophy is only: MONEY

Since colonisation and the WILD WEST, no one could give a damn about their own mother as long as they would get gold.

What did change in 300 years? You became the example of the greedy world running top financial markets and top financial scams ( Maddocks anyone?).

70 % of the US economy is based on consumer spending, if they don`t spend, you sink ALL and with you, the world itself. Proving what you created is destroying everyone. Worse than a virus.

You go around making deals with other government trying to test depleted uranium (DU) and leaving the mess behind....(Puerto RIco, Japan , Australia just to start).

And I could go on and on and on.

Don`t come here telling us how good the USA are or have been because you won`t fool anyone.

 

[DaddyHalbucks]

Where were the world cops during the hutu and tutsi genocide ?

Didn't the "free" people of America vote for Obama ?

Good question. I assume you want to know where the rest of the world was, too. I can tell it really bothers you.

The "free" American people did not vote for Obama. ACORN voted for Obama. SEIU voted for Obama. 96% of African Americans voted for Obama. AFL-CIO voted for Obama. UAW voted for Obama.

He paid them back BIG TIME after the election.

See, Obama doesn't represent free America, he only represents his special interests. This is becoming more and more apparent as time goes on...

 

[italiandragon]

And VOLVO is going too...


http://www.forbes.com/2009/12/23/volvo-geely-ford-business-autos-china.html

 

[randomo]

right and the native american indians handed over the land to all the foreign people becuase they wanted to...

Our country was young and growing, and we made terrible mistakes. Since then, we have set aside huge tracts of land for the members of First Nation, agreed to pay them reparations, and offered them other types of economic support. Don't forget that they still have rights like freedom of speech, freedom of worship, etc. ... rights that are currently denied to the peoples conquered by China (Tibetans, Uighurs, etc.).

And while our government still makes mistakes sometimes, the Chinese government has official policies of torturing and killing people opposed to its policies. (Stand in a square in Lhasa and shout "Long live the Dalai Lama", and see how much longer you think China has more enlightened policies than the U.S.)

The "free" American people did not vote for Obama. ACORN voted for Obama. SEIU voted for Obama. 96% of African Americans voted for Obama. AFL-CIO voted for Obama. UAW voted for Obama.

He paid them back BIG TIME after the election.

See, Obama doesn't represent free America, he only represents his special interests. This is becoming more and more apparent as time goes on...

I'm not a member of any groups you cited, but I voted for him too, and given the same choice, I'd do it again.

BTW, which presidents or major parties have not supported "special interests"? Whether your policies favor workers, employers, investors, or whomever, somebody will think you're doing favors for "special interests", whatever those are. (One person's worthy citizen is another person's special interest.)

 

[DaddyHalbucks]

Don`t come here telling us how good the USA are or have been because you won`t fool anyone.

Ah shucks, you caught me. OK, I admit it, the USA sucks.

The only thing I can't figure out is why millions of people try to break-in to our country every year? Why break-in to a crappy country?

I don't get it.

:lol:

 

[raoul]

Ah shucks, you caught me. OK, I admit it, the USA sucks.

The only thing I can't figure out is why millions of people try to break-in to our country every year? Why break-in to a crappy country?

I don't get it.

:lol:

For sure USA have some good points, but also alot bad points. There are scienentific ways to measure that, democracy, economic climate, "happyness level" bla bla bla

usa is never # 1 on such lists, mexico or china ofcource also not. Your behaving here as the typical stereo type american asshole that has never crossed the border of his country in his life, because anyone else that is not raising a stars and stripes in the morning is evil , communistic, jobstealer

 

[italiandragon]

Ah shucks, you caught me. OK, I admit it, the USA sucks.

The only thing I can't figure out is why millions of people try to break-in to our country every year? Why break-in to a crappy country?

I don't get it.

:lol:

you see??? You are jumping from a topic to another one trying to save the non sense you made so far.

First the topic was on .cn and China and you bashed them saying Usa is so good that you won't even visit China then you claimed the Usa has been historically the world cop and now you talk about immigration in the Usa?

Next what ? Monica Lewinsky maybe?

Anyway I will reply to your non sense again: I did not say that the Usa are the worst country and if you take a good look at the statistics more and more Americans are leaving their own country to seek better lifestyle (or less taxes).

With desperation nearby coming from Mexico is not so difficult to get many immigrants, the same applies to most European countries and Australia and other developed countries.

 

[Anthony Ng]

I don't watch CNN. I stopped watching that network 6-12 months ago when I realized I was only getting a fraction of the story.

Join the club. I found out that (CNN not reporting the whole story) in 2003, when they bowed and agreed to be "embedded" during the invasion of Iraq.

the Chinese government has official policies of torturing and killing people opposed to its policies.

But there simply are no such policies ...

Anyway, this thread is already too "out-focused" even on topics that are already off topic.

It's not even about whether the U.S. being a better place to live, work, play and raise your kids, because then you'll have to take into consideration Europe, Australia, Canada (all of which I have spent more than a few days) if not basically every country on earth. Every nation has its good and bad things, it's just that some people *THINK* China is exceptionally unbearable, thanks to either ignorance or propaganda.

China and very often its people are picked on because they are SO DIFFERENT from the weak and poor sterotype portrayed until more recently. For those who are not aware of it, the new generation of Chinese people dare to stand up against bullies. (And yes, they dare to stand up against social injustice and government corruption too, in case anyone is curious.) This thread is a very good example.

 

[DomainsInc]

Did Chinese people tell you to participate their policies? you have every right not to, you know. but you don't see Chinese people going around the world and say whichever state needs to do something simliar to them in order to see a nice place they wanted do they?

don't make excuses, the Fact stays the same, China is rising even with a "communist" party, the USA is sinking with multiple political parties under the so called "democracy" consitituion.

everyone in the world (including Chinese in China) know that China's government is full of corruptions, but how many people in the US know and are willing to believe their government is corrupted to a certain extent too? why not stop complaining about the others and stick to your own issues first? the US of A really isn't the world cop you know.

where would china be without this "failing democracy" outsourcing and buying up cheaply made crap?