china bans individuals from registering domains

[randomo]

Every nation has its good and bad things, it's just that some people *THINK* China is exceptionally unbearable, thanks to either ignorance or propaganda.

Or facts ... too many damning reports (about their government and its actions over many years), from too wide a variety of sources, to think otherwise.

For those who are not aware of it, the new generation of Chinese people dare to stand up against bullies. (And yes, they dare to stand up against social injustice and government corruption too, in case anyone is curious.)

Glad to hear it. When I'm considering buying Chinese-made goods, I hold my nose and figure that as the country becomes more capitalist / free-market, the rulers will be forced to become less repressive and totalitarian, and the people will become freer to stand up against evil. But they have a looong way to go.

 

[Anthony Ng]

When I'm considering buying Chinese-made goods, I hold my nose and figure that as the country becomes more capitalist / free-market, the rulers will be forced to become less repressive and totalitarian, and the people will become freer to stand up against evil. But they have a looong way to go.

First of all, freedom and democracy have nothing to do with Capitalism. That is also why we have had SO MANY Capitalism-friendly dictatorship, from South America to Asia in the last century.

Secondly, there really is not any more totalitarian regime on earth. The truth is, there really WERE not many totalitarian regimes in history. The only eligible candidates are the former Soviet Union (and the Eastern Bloc states), and China before 1979. Don't mix up totalitarianism with authoritarianism (or dictatorship); the prefix TOTAL here may help.

Last but not least, China has officially been a Capitalistic state since 2002 when the then President (and more importantly Communist Party Secretary) endorsed the "3 representatives", which fully embraces Capitalism in black and white. Yes, China is still not a democracy but a dictatorship which loosely follows the line of New Authoritarianism adopted by "little dragons" (most notably South Korea, Singapore and Taiwan) after the Second World War. I agree that there is still a long way to go; but if we put things into perspective, there are MANY places on earth with MUCH WORSE living conditions (incl. human rights abuse) than China. And to turn a blind eye to her TREMENDOUS progress over the last 30 years is ignorant to say the least.

The best part of "Western" education is independent thinking. Don't let those with vested interests feed you with their propaganda.

 

[randomo]

First of all, freedom and democracy have nothing to do with Capitalism. That is also why we have had SO MANY Capitalism-friendly dictatorship, from South America to Asia in the last century.

Statistically speaking, I think communism tends to lead to more despotic regimes than capitalism. Don't you?

"Democracy is the worst form of government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time." - Winston Churchill

I agree that there is still a long way to go; but if we put things into perspective, there are MANY places on earth with MUCH WORSE living conditions (incl. human rights abuse) than China. And to turn a blind eye to her TREMENDOUS progress over the last 30 years is ignorant to say the least.

I agree that there has been progress in China. But think of other nations with some of the worst human rights abuses: North Korea, Myanmar, Sudan, etc. Who's helping to prop up those regimes? (Hint: rhymes with "Dinah".)

The best part of "Western" education is independent thinking. Don't let those with vested interests feed you with their propaganda.

Please tell me you're not accusing my news sources of propaganda, while overlooking its constant and despicable use by the Chinese government!

 

[snicksnack]

Myanmar is a beautiful country. Nice people. Since Senior General Than Shwe kicked out Secretary 1 Khin Nyun from his government position, I don't see any chane of a reform anytime soon. Aung San Suu Kyi won't make it.

 

[DaddyHalbucks]

the US of A really isn't the world cop you know.

Where were the world cops during the hutu and tutsi genocide ?

I'm confused.

First, our critics imply that the USA shouldn't be the world cop, then, they criticize us for not doing enough.

:?:

 

[snicksnack]

you must be really confused ! 2 different people !

 

[Anthony Ng]

Statistically speaking, I think communism tends to lead to more despotic regimes than capitalism. Don't you?

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I agree that there has been progress in China. But think of other nations with some of the worst human rights abuses: North Korea, Myanmar, Sudan, etc. Who's helping to prop up those regimes? (Hint: rhymes with "Dinah".)

You may want to check your stat again. And if you are not aware of it, the U.S. helped prop up MOST of those ruthless dictators in the second half of the last century.

Sorry to say, but it's a pity that I even have to elaborate this. For those who are new to these FACTS, the U.S. even overthrew the democratically elected government of Chile (Allende) and proped up the WORSE military dictatorship in recent human history (Pinochet).

 

[randomo]

Just came over the wire:

China sentences Liu to 11 years for subversion

"A Chinese court sentenced a prominent dissident to 11 years in jail Friday on subversion charges after he called for sweeping political reforms and an end to Communist Party dominance."

Typical sentence for "thoughtcrime". (Calling for political reform is an everyday sport in the U.S., a serious crime in places like China.)

 

[snicksnack]

Typical sentence for "thoughtcrime". (Calling for political reform is an everyday sport in the U.S., a serious crime in places like China.)

true, but that's the law (for now).

 

[Anthony Ng]

Typical sentence for "thoughtcrime".

This is not thought but SPEECH crime. Liu is actually prosecuted for his role in drafting Charter 08. It's a shame that he has been persecuted all along for advocating political reform in the last 20 years.

EDIT: But hey, this thread should be more about whether China or more precisely .CN domains are good to invest (or speculate); and to this end, I am here to debunk some misinforming remarks, which could otherwise affect good business decision making.

 

[randomo]

EDIT: But hey, this thread should be more about whether China or more precisely .CN domains are good to invest (or speculate); and to this end, I am here to debunk some misinforming remarks, which could otherwise affect good business decision making.

OK. China's economic prospects look strong, so there should be profit potential; it's up to each domainer to decide whether moral aspects should affect the decision about investing in .CN domains. Enough said.

 

[Wot]

There will be many buyers for .cn particularly idn.cn as they become more mainstream.

So, if you need a company to invest in them then create a company and provide the necessary documentation. I don't think there is any restriction on the number of .cn domains that a "company" can own- anybody?

If that is the case simply comply with the rules.

 

[Anthony Ng]

OK. China's economic prospects look strong, so there should be profit potential; it's up to each domainer to decide whether moral aspects should affect the decision about investing in .CN domains. Enough said.

Whether you like it or not, Capitalism is all about maximizing profits; business ethics taught in MBA makes minimal if any difference in the real world.

More importantly, doing business with China actually helps bring this former Communist state even closer to full blown Capitalism (something that I hate to see, to be honest).

And again, for those who are still retrieving from their 30 year old knowledge base, Chinese economy today is mostly PRIVATE SECTOR DRIVEN after privatizing MOST SEOs (state own enterprises) by the turn of the century.

 

[katherine]

That's the problem with ccTLDs, each nation is free to handle its own as it deems appropriate.
.com has been popular for a reason, it's a stateless gTLD that is a bit less affected by government interference. Everything is relative of course.

 

[randomo]

Whether you like it or not, Capitalism is all about maximizing profits; business ethics taught in MBA makes minimal if any difference in the real world.

Still, each individual makes choices that balance potential profits and moral aspects. That's why there are popular "socially conscious" mutual funds and so forth. (It also means that companies & countries may do well by doing good, since some investors put a premium on such behavior.)

I doubt that many potential domain investors on this forum took MBA training. But I'm sure some of them weigh the social costs of their investment decisions, as I do.

 

[bwhhisc]

Now, you are writing BS sorry!
But now you come up saying that Italians can`t manage it?

If the Italians managed a Disney park no doubt at least the food would sure be better.

 

[snicksnack]

With an italian chef the food would be better, but the italian manager would hire a british chef ;-)

 

[mediawizard]

.DE

2. (ii) either you, or the person designated as the administrative contact for the domain name, shall be resident or shall have a branch in Germany;

http://www.lunarpages.com/content/legal/legal_11.htm

.CO.UK

Requires you to pay 10GBP [+VAT] to Nominet for every Registrar name change.
http://www.nominet.org.uk/registrants/maintain/transfer/

I think it also has a requirement for a local 'agent' as nominet refers to it for registering said domain. In any case, most registrars offering .co.uk registrations require a UK based postal address for admin contact.

.COM.AU

Also has nexus requirements, you are correct. But in the global scheme of things, it is as yet insignificant. A non-aussie is unlikely to launch a site on .com.au unless it is targeted to Australia.

which requirements?

Anyone can reg .co.uk and .de

rather you forgot .com.au there

This move from the Chinese Govt. is very good actually.

Hopefully this will force porn addicts to use .com or .net only in the future.

And eventually push the USA to realise that they got a ccTld to use.

 

[dn-101]

Fvck freedom & democracy. What is needed is an understanding of what happened and how it will affect our biz.
The Russians aren't that far off from the Chinese when it comes to regging .rf and .ru.

The registries have been asking for a proof of the US residency for regging .us since forever.
Our sh!theads in London and Wash DC are no diff from their buddies in Moscow and Pekin. :smilewinkgrin:

 

[DNWizardX9]

Fvck freedom & democracy. What is needed is an understanding of what happened and how it will affect our biz.
The Russians aren't that far off from the Chinese when it comes to regging .rf and .ru.

The registries have been asking for a proof of the US residency for regging .us since forever.
Our sh!theads in London and Wash DC are no diff from their buddies in Moscow and Pekin. :smilewinkgrin:

Doc Com must have whipped you up some nice kool aid this morning as you finally make some sense.