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Are you having trouble getting listed in Google?

Not sure why ?

Show me your website and I'll show you how to fix it..

FREE!
 

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Originally posted by byalik
ebiztalk.com
What EXACTLY do you mean by ebiztalk.com having trouble getting listed by Google?
 

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Originally posted by byalik
ebiztalk.com

Nice template.. but thats all it is.. Google NEEEDS text..

1) Determine which keywords you want to be found for.(aim for1- 2 main keywords for starters)

2)Write 3-4 Paragraphs.about what your site is, use your Keywords with a frequency of around 17%.. include them "naturally" dont just "keyword stuff" All thet white space in the middle of your home page needs to be content..think of text as FOOD for googlebot..feed the bot. Make it relevent to your site.

3) Your title should be your main keyword

4) get at least 1 link from someone


Do it tonight and you should still make it into this months Google update..
 

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BUT ebiztalk.com is ALREADY in Google's database!? :confused:
 

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Originally posted by nameslave
BUT ebiztalk.com is ALREADY in Google's database!? :confused:

That was fast. :eek:
 

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WOW and Ranked 1rst ! :laugh: beat that Skinz :laugh:

You'll remain "greyed" on Googles PR bar until you make the suggested changes.. since you are already "indexed" work on getting more links..
AND add those paragraphs...
 

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I am ranked first? Under what? I am using the google paid program
 

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ebiztalk ...it was funny because there are only 8 sites listed under that "keyword" ..but hey..you rank #1 .. ;)

Using Google adwords for your chat site ebiztalk.com ? May I ask why? I dont see any "product" that you are selling..

And what "keyword" are you using ?


My advise would be to drop the adwords program for now.. concentrate on what "keywords" you want to be found under and build your community up...

Google adwords is a great tool...but how are you measuring ROI with a discussuion forum?

I may be way off base..you may not care about the investment of google adwords..you may be using it just as that ..an "investment" as in a way to quickly reach potential new members.. a fast way of building your member base..
 

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Im just trying to build it up. Im not making any money on it
 

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bidawinner you can give me some advice on how to improve the ranking of
http://www.hiphopdvds.com/site

its a work in progress so some links may be dead ends but it would be nice to implement the right kind of stuff so it ranks well when launched.

also somehow i seem to have gotten a pagerank of 5 with almost zero content. any idea how that might happened and how i can work on increasing it even more?

Ciq
 

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Originally posted by Ciqala
bidawinner you can give me some advice on how to improve the ranking of
http://www.hiphopdvds.com/site

its a work in progress so some links may be dead ends but it would be nice to implement the right kind of stuff so it ranks well when launched.

also somehow i seem to have gotten a pagerank of 5 with almost zero content. any idea how that might happened and how i can work on increasing it even more?

Ciq

Cigla looks like you are getting a nice boost from the Tupac inbound link...

Anyways , The site has a very professional look.Unilke most of my sites. Your problem is the same as Byliks though..you have very little text for google bots to read, in order to place you.

I went to http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/ and as you can see on 700 some searches for "hip hop dvds"

So while you want that traffic , it's really not enough to design your whole site over ....dont use use hip hop dvds " as your main keyword..use it asa secondary keyword.

The keyword phrase "Hip Hop" is searched 196,000 times a month BUT if you then go to Google and search for " hip hop" you see you would have to beat 3.3 Million pages to get ranked somewhere inthe first 2 pages..

Do me a favor and look at the first few websites under "hip hop" look at the backlinks .. you see it takes hundreds of high PR sites linking to it and the second one took over 1000 links pointing ! ..thats how manyb links you would need to rank on the first page for that Keyword phrase.. "hip hop" ..

SO while that is certainly an admiral goal.. thats a ton of work..

The object is to use oveture inventory and find some keywords that relate to your website that have fairly decent searches and at the same time those keywords have the least amount of competition...

Have you considered a keyword phrase like "hip hop chart" 5000 + monthly searches (plus all the other SE's).. You could rank pretty easy on that term.. it only has 217,000 google results(competition) other than Billboard which has the top spot ...do the same research and you see how much less in bound links you need...

The searches are for music ..but you could easily translate that into a charting of dvds..hip hop movies/dvds have a top ten or something..


Thats just one example .. but you see the general idea...find keywords/ phrases that are solid but not necessairly the top keyword..keep looking for 2-3 good keywords that you can use like that AND that have little competition on Google and that relate to your web site..

Take those keywords and keyword phrases.. pick the one you want to use as the MAIN keyword and use that one for your title.

Take all the keywords and add at least a few paragraphs of text for googlebots.. feed the bots...just rememeber that..feed the bots.. your site looks great but the bots dont care..they want text and links.

Your outbound links are perfect ..you are linking to a high quality site and that DOES matter..

So ..

1) find 2-3 Keywords(that relate to your site) with good searches on overture and at the same time have the least amount of competition on Google. You want to use "hip hop" but use it as a second or 3rd choice

2)MORE TEXT... Incorporate those keywords all over your site in good natural way...dont just stuff your site with those keywords..the bots are getting smarter by the day and you will get caught..eventually.
use your main keyword in the title and give it the highest "frequency" on your site.


3)get more links .links win out even over content..thats why I think Google is flawed..but thats the way it is.

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4) use your movie/dvd Titles as more keywords sprinkled through out you site,, set-up dedicated pages for those.. as in final destination 2 " use them more than once..that will give you an edge over the site's that only list them once..(which most do)

So on your front page you have "final destination 2" linking to apples trailer , maybe widen that cell and split the cell..on one side you have the movie titles pointing to the trailers the other siide you have the movie titles pointing to html pages with small writes up the movies..more pages are always good ! And they are relevent to your site..


The main thing is to sort out for yourself which keywords you want to be found for and learn to incorporate..to pay attention to making sure you are using them correctly in your site.

Google changes their algo all the time..the rules change on a whim ..and you'll be the last to know about it..

These guys are the pros on Google.. http://www.webmasterworld.com/index.htm

Getting indexed in Google is easy.. getting high ranking in very competitive keywords really boils down to LINKS.. inbound rate for more..but outbound also matters, content matters.. but it will always come back to links..


Thats the Heart of Google..links..

I think it is a flawed algo because the the cheating is rampant .. but until something better comes along thats what you have to do..


If you want to rank for "Hip Hop" then it is simply a matter of getting more and btter links than the next guy..al things considered equal content wise..


Good Luck...
 

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thanks bidawinner i'll give it a go.

also once my sites running i do intend on visiting every hiphop site i can find with a links section and submitting myself.

my pal did it (hiphopgame.com) and he gets 26k hits per day now (and he is listed on page 3 of the results for the keywords hip hop in google)
 

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Originally posted by Ciqala
thanks bidawinner i'll give it a go.

also once my sites running i do intend on visiting every hiphop site i can find with a links section and submitting myself.

my pal did it (hiphopgame.com) and he gets 26k hits per day now (and he is listed on page 3 of the results for the keywords hip hop in google)

strange, since there are currently only 18 people on his site, and only 4 (!) votes in the poll?
 

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Originally posted by icehole


strange, since there are currently only 18 people on his site, and only 4 (!) votes in the poll?

icehole this is the time of day when america is just waking up. so numbers online would be low.

I host the site on my server and i've seen the stats so its no bs plus he's using around 370 gb bandwidth a month. he does have realaudios but still thats 247k audios served and that forms only one part of his site.
 

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Do me a favor and look at the first few websites under "hip hop" look at the backlinks .. you see it takes hundreds of high PR sites linking to it and the second one took over 1000 links pointing ! ..thats how manyb links you would need to rank on the first page for that Keyword phrase.. "hip hop" ..


when some one looks at a link in google ,how can someone tell the number of site linking to it
 

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Originally posted by changejobs
Do me a favor and look at the first few websites under "hip hop" look at the backlinks .. you see it takes hundreds of high PR sites linking to it and the second one took over 1000 links pointing ! ..thats how manyb links you would need to rank on the first page for that Keyword phrase.. "hip hop" ..


when some one looks at a link in google ,how can someone tell the number of site linking to it

http://www.google.com/help/features.html#link
 

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hey bid...your box is full again. maybe check the other boxes to see if you have a bunch of pm's stored elsewhere.


sent you an email about our conversation.
 

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Originally posted by Larry
hey bid...your box is full again. maybe check the other boxes to see if you have a bunch of pm's stored elsewhere.


sent you an email about our conversation.

My sent box was overflowing..I cleared it..
 
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