IDN's dropping like flies

[touchring]

Therefore, I didn't say people don't; I said people's choice is the natural language of the Internet: English.

Yeh, just a while ago, people's natural language of the PC: English,because Bill only made English Windows 3.1.

This might be true for some cases in Europe today, but go to China, go to Japan, try and find an English Windows.

Just because you don't change, doesn't mean others don't as well.

 

[acesfull]

I said people's choice is the natural language of the Internet: English.

Tim O'Reilly (of http://tim.oreilly.com) was quoted as saying that "Open source is the natural language of the Internet."

 

[memmst]

Tim O'Reilly (of http://tim.oreilly.com) was quoted as saying that "Open source is the natural language of the Internet."

Tim O'reilly doesn't have an iTrader rating. :doh:

 

[DNWizardX9]

Do I really speak Greek? Yes, I do. Do I care what you think? No, I don't.

People will use gestures if necessary. Spoken language and typing behavior, especially in a technology-driven world are two distinct things. Just because more than 1/3 of the world speaks a Chinese dialect does not mean the same - or even remotely close - percentage use the Internet in their native language. I am not talking about content; I'm referring to the way the URL is typed in.

Therefore, I didn't say people don't; I said people's choice is the natural language of the Internet: English.

Google was quoted a few months ago saying that Chinese and Hindi will soon become the two other monster languages on the Internet. They will also overtake English web content.

Would you really go against what Google says?

 

[touchring]

Google was quoted a few months ago saying that Chinese and Hindi will soon become the two other monster languages on the Internet. They will also overtake English web content.

Would you really go against what Google says?

Look at his words again,

I am not talking about content; I'm referring to the way the URL is typed in.

He doesn't deny that for content, but he doesn't believe that people will type it for the URL. Perhaps, he doesn't know that the www. is not compulsory.

 

[acesfull]

Two new IDN sales reported at DNJournal.com ...

1) Making #20 on the Big List: Türkiye.com $6,600

2) Korean IDN: 인테리어소품.com Sold for $4,100

 

[bwhhisc]

Therefore, I didn't say people don't; I said people's choice is the natural language of the Internet: English.

"The natural language of the internet" ...yes for the English speaking people!

But if you don't speak English, it will get very few # 1 votes I am afraid.
Who wants a website their customers can't understand what it means?

Imagine this in a major American advertising campaign: υπολογιστες.com
Ahhh, but put that up for advertising in Greece and you got a winner!

Two new IDN sales reported at DNJournal.com ...

1) Making #20 on the Big List: Türkiye.com $6,600

2) Korean IDN: 인테리어소품.com Sold for $4,100

There are quite a few larger IDN sales that are private and not been reported.
Japanese city .com (top 10 city) went for xx,xxx (private sale).
Russian city .com sold for mid+ x,xxx (private sale)
Japanese IDN- translation.com = 翻訳.com went for $9,000 (idnf auction).

 

[touchring]

Two new IDN sales reported at DNJournal.com ...

1) Making #20 on the Big List: Türkiye.com $6,600

2) Korean IDN: 인테리어소품.com Sold for $4,100

Türkiye.com is an incredibly good buy, but i can't understand this -> 인테리어소품.com

 

[bwhhisc]

You missed the point :-D
The misconception that keywords in English behave the same way in other languages, is evident. E.g. nudity and nude are not the same words - also nouns are gender-specific. A lot of non-English languages are like this. You can't just open an English to Whathaveyou dictionary and start registering IDN domains.

You can easily hire a native speaker or a translator to provide assistance. You can also get appraisals on regs for free at many forums. Actually once you learn the tools, ovt, crossreference dictionaries, google trends, etc. you can get it right 9 out of 10 times if not more. Many use registration services with a window to "drop" bad regs.

There are really good IDNs for sale, ie. on Chinese forums, assistance if needed is available from many bilingual members. Most sellers have paypal even in China.

 

[acesfull]

Türkiye.com is an incredibly good buy, but i can't understand this -> 인테리어소품.com

Maybe the buyer, or native Korean, could explain the meaning and/or value of the domain. The .net is registered to someone in Seoul, which could also be an indicator.

 

[touchring]

Maybe the buyer, or native Korean, could explain the meaning and/or value of the domain. The .net is registered to someone in Seoul, which could also be an indicator.

The .nets for Korean are always gone, even for mediocre names - so this measure doesn't work for korean idns. You need to check if the .biz is gone. :madgrin:

The .com is taken by a Chris S, he seem to register only Korean names and taking names wholesale at $60 a pop, and about 5 names a day! This time round, i'm amazed that he bidded a 6 character name till 4000 bucks! :faint2::faint2::faint2:

 

[DNWizardX9]

The .nets for Korean are always gone, even for mediocre names - so this measure doesn't work for korean idns. You need to check if the .biz is gone. :madgrin:

The .com is taken by a Chris S, he seem to register only Korean names and taking names wholesale at $60 a pop, and about 5 names a day! This time round, i'm amazed that he bidded a 6 character name till 4000 bucks! :faint2::faint2::faint2:

But good thing also, this bodes well for my ROK.com. :tongue1:

Chris S is a big domainer and has ton of Korean IDNs, many which come from Snap. I'm not sure what the keyword means but according to Google it's pretty hot.

 

[bwhhisc]

The .com is taken by a Chris S, he seem to register only Korean names and taking names wholesale at $60 a pop, and about 5 names a day! This time round, i'm amazed that he bidded a 6 character name till 4000 bucks! :faint2::faint2::faint2:

Check out the ovt on 인테리어소품.com ovt = 236,412 :humble:

http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/?mkt=kr

Google.com- Web Results 1 - 10 of about 2,850,000 for "인테리어소품".

 

[touchring]

Chris S is a big domainer and has ton of Korean IDNs, many which come from Snap. I'm not sure what the keyword means but according to Google it's pretty hot.

Yes, he gets very little competiton at $60 unless for really good names. Everyone is just used to paying only $7.

 

[DNWizardX9]

Yes, he gets very little competiton at $60 unless for really good names. Everyone is just used to paying only $7.

No, competition for korean is extreme. Some good names on Snap slide by cause Korean is the hardest to translate.

 

[flybuzz]

maybe they won't even use the .com extension, it would be .wierdsymbols

 

[touchring]

maybe they won't even use the .com extension, it would be .wierdsymbols

People have been using all sorts of latin transliteration (no fixed rules) with the .com symbol all this while. Opps, not symbol, but yes, the .com is a symbol to many.

e.g. if English were a transliteration, we can generate many domains.

domain.com
domaine.com
dommain.com
dumain.com
dormain.com
domain88.com

 

[silhouette]

I really envy people that knew IDNs that early.

late 2004 is ok, NOT too early
It took great courages and determination to reg. multilingual domain names(the retro idns) in the early days.

Simply your names were with the registry collecting dust, until late 2003(?) then you got your chance to get your "precious" names tested on the mltbd.com zone.

Anyone remember typing the cumbersome URL like:
www . b q -- abzxbzlom5q q.mltbd.com
just to look at your "hello world" homepage

no flame...

(old memory fading, hope i got this right)

 

[touchring]

late 2004 is ok, NOT too early
It took great courages and determination to reg. multilingual domain names(the retro idns) in the early days.

Simply your names were with the registry collecting dust, until late 2003(?) then you got your chance to get your "precious" names tested on the mltbd.com zone.

Anyone remember typing the cumbersome URL like:
www . b q -- abzxbzlom5q q.mltbd.com
just to look at your "hello world" homepage

no flame...

(old memory fading, hope i got this right)

hmm, 2004 was actually the best time if i'm not mistaken.

2000 Nov, was IDN landrush (similar to .EU landrush), and most top names were snapped up. 3 years later, with no good news in sight, people started dropping them, most prime drops happening 4 years later around 2004, so 2004 was the perfect time?

Of cos, we've all seen stories of ppl holding them for 6 years, but these are odd cases?

I know quite a few went in at around 2004 - RD, Dillpup, Wassi, Joe Lee (2003) who else? So i guess, either they were lucky, had the guts, plain foolish or had the hindsight.

 

[silhouette]

Of cos, we've all seen stories of ppl holding them for 6 years, but these are odd cases?

Those are registars keeping for themselves??

2000 Nov, was IDN landrush (similar to .EU landrush), and most top names were snapped up. 3 years later, with no good news in sight, people started dropping them, most prime drops happening 4 years later around 2004, so 2004 was the perfect time?

My (very very)wild guess is Theo belongs to this league... so, lets dont blame him :cheeky: *kidding*

-no flame-