multiple domain forwarding = higher SE rank?

seeker · May 7, 2004

A question to SEO gurus.
If I have 10 domains pointing (using URL forwarding) to a main site, does that increase its SE rank?

does it do better If I dont use the regsitrars URL forwarding but do it manually on my server?

Thanks!

David G · May 7, 2004

I am not a Guru on SEO but I don't think domain pointing helps in any way (but linking of course does).

Also don't think it matters if you use the registrars forwarding or your server htaccess for pointing/forwarding. I may be wrong of course.

seeker · May 8, 2004

thanks realnames.

But... If I use htaccess, dont search engines count these as links?
Or is it better to just add a single page with a link?
Does that help?

Thanks!

David G · May 8, 2004

seeker said:
thanks realnames. But... If I use htaccess, dont search engines count these as links? Or is it better to just add a single page with a link? Does that help? Thanks!

I believe so called "masked forwarding" (where the name that was redirected from appears in the browser window - not the url forwarded to), does indeed help SE ranking. In fact, you can even use metatags with masked forwarding at registrars such as GoDaddy/WildWest.

The problem is htaccess on my server is not masked, it only does normal redirect or forwarding. Have never been able to figure out how to do it after asking the server admin and webhosting forums about it for a long time. Wish I knew how to do it as it appears to be much better. Some registrars offer do it, sometimes even doing it free.

Anyone here know how to do masked forwarding on a server?

xalex · Aug 19, 2004

RealNames said:
I believe so called "masked forwarding" (where the name that was redirected from appears in the browser window - not the url forwarded to), does indeed help SE ranking. In fact, you can even use metatags with masked forwarding at registrars such as GoDaddy/WildWest.

The problem is htaccess on my server is not masked, it only does normal redirect or forwarding. Have never been able to figure out how to do it after asking the server admin and webhosting forums about it for a long time. Wish I knew how to do it as it appears to be much better. Some registrars offer do it, sometimes even doing it free.

Anyone here know how to do masked forwarding on a server?

Use frames

seeker · Aug 19, 2004

hi xalex.
Could you clarify, maybe an example?
Thanks.

David G · Aug 19, 2004

seeker said:
hi xalex. Could you clarify, maybe an example? Thanks.

Yes Xalex, please give easy to understand example!

xalex · Aug 19, 2004

You use 100% frame on the forwarding domain.
Something like this

<html>
<head>
<title></title>
<META name="description" content="">
<META name="keywords" content="">
</head>
<frameset rows="100%,*" border="0">
<frame src="http://actualdomain.com/" frameborder="0">
<frame frameborder="0" noresize>
</frameset>
</html>

seeker · Aug 19, 2004

thanks!
where exactly does that code go?

David G · Aug 19, 2004

seeker said:
thanks! where exactly does that code go?

My question too? Seems no way to implement that code for this purpose but of course I may be wrong or misunderstanding?

<html>
<head>
<title></title>
<META name="description" content="">
<META name="keywords" content="">
</head>
<frameset rows="100%,*" border="0">
<frame src="http://actualdomain.com/" frameborder="0">
<frame frameborder="0" noresize>
</frameset>
</html>

P.S. How could the code you gave above possibly be put online when there is no actual website set up to install the code into? You may be misunderstanding the issue. The issue is how to do server 'masked forwarding' instead of using domain pointers or regular redirects, and without needing to do lots of server work in setting up a website only to do a masked redirect?

reed · Aug 19, 2004

xalex said:
You use 100% frame on the forwarding domain.
Something like this

<html>
<head>
<title></title>
<META name="description" content="">
<META name="keywords" content="">
</head>
<frameset rows="100%,*" border="0">
<frame src="http://actualdomain.com/" frameborder="0">
<frame frameborder="0" noresize>
</frameset>
</html>

Let me know if I got this right - this could be used for one of the 10 domains (as in the original post) that would open with that specific url but the content displayed would be the target domain which is really inside a frame. Then there would not really be any actual forwarding. Is that right?

seeker · Aug 19, 2004

basicaly 1 site developed, but 10 forward to it while 'keeping; their url.

so example.com/folder/index = example2.com/folder/index and so forth.
In theory it looks like each domain is autonomous with the same content as the original site, resulting (hopefully) in search engines placing 10 domains in the search results which are actualy the same 1 site.

David G · Aug 19, 2004

seeker said:
basicaly 1 site developed, but 10 forward to it while 'keeping; their url.

so example.com/folder/index = example2.com/folder/index and so forth.
In theory it looks like each domain is autonomous with the same content as the original site, resulting (hopefully) in search engines placing 10 domains in the search results which are actualy the same 1 site.

That's exactly what I want to do Seeker. Have spent a couple yrs trying to learn how to do that. Asked many gurus at several forum boards including server firms and no one has been able to explain it for some odd reason. That is something GoDaddy/WildWest can easily do for domains reg'd there but I prefer to implement it myself on my own server rather than rely on a 3rd party.

P.S. Yes, Seeker, it does in fact result in all 10 domains as in your example being listed in Google, though only 1 domain really has its own website. In the past I did that using WW and every domain on masked forwarding was listed in Google including the metatags indexed.

seeker · Aug 19, 2004

yes, it looks like we are both trying to do it. I *know* it can be done, I knew a few people that did it, but have since lost contact with them.
I am sure there is a way, we just need to find it.

David G · Aug 19, 2004

seeker said:
yes, it looks like we are both trying to do it. I *know* it can be done, I knew a few people that did it, but have since lost contact with them. I am sure there is a way, we just need to find it.

Yes, as I said, it definately can be done and I am sure it is actually quite simple. I have wasted a few yrs and lots of time but no one can explain it.

Perhaps we should pool some money and offer it as compensation to whoever tells us how to do so. But that may not work as I have offered to pay for the solution at hosting and programming boards and no one seemed to want my money?

seeker · Aug 19, 2004

I'll pay for it.
Who can give us a solution? Where?

David G · Aug 19, 2004

seeker said:
I'll pay for it. Who can give us a solution? Where?

Me too. Don't hold your breath waiting for the solution.

seeker · Aug 19, 2004

it cant be such a valuable 'secret' that no one wants to give away???
maybe we should try one of those freelance sites?
any one else have any idea?

David G · Aug 19, 2004

seeker said:
it cant be such a valuable 'secret' that no one wants to give away??? maybe we should try one of those freelance sites? any one else have any idea?

Perhaps it is a great moneymaking secret after all. I have posted this question on multiple boards for ages, including all the domain forums, and the most active webhosting and programming boards too.

seeker · Aug 19, 2004

well then, I'll seek and I'l find

here's the closest to seeing the results of this.
If you google any celebrities name with the word 'nude' in front of it, such as 'nude sharon stone' the results on the first few pages will seem to be different sites (urls). However, the majority of them go to a central site. This is not a simple redirect, as I tried on different names (celebs) of the original sites, and, bingo, it works like the site it redirects to. So although nudeexample.com/stone redirects to mainnude.com/enter/signup, If I place the /enter/signup on the nudeexample.com url, i get the same result. So they are basicaly clones yet each with their own identity. Sort of like perfect identical twins.
I tried that a while back and it was interesting.
So apparently it is used in the 'porn' industry which is very competitive, so it must have value (the technology).

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