My First Developed New TLD Website: NewNames.info - NewNames.biz - NewNames.us

[David G]

Your index graphics (particularly .US graphic) clearly show your wishful thinking which you're trying to project onto others. Shall I suggest a new graphic for .US ? > http://www.jeffknight.com/family/images/baby-sleeping.jpg
The whole site reeks of delusions and dreams you so badly want to believe in. Oh well, your choice.

Personally, I think dot-us is real good, having many .us sites which get good steady traffic, and nice SE rankings. For some very odd reason I find it real easy to get traffic to my us sites but almost impossible to get traffic to my net biz info's - no idea why that happens. Perhaps the rumored old wifes tale that SE's favor certain extensions may be true after all. Wouldn't that be amazing if it was so!

 

[Sharpy]

Very nice site Ron.

 

[Duke]

Very nice site Ron.

Very nice avatar Sharpy!

 

[Sharpy]

Thanks, i decided to come out of the domain bin.

 

[sasquatch]

Thanks cappucino, but what I have been depositing in my bank account each week are not delusions and dreams. But the longer you and others believe they are, the better off I'll be. The competition for names has already heated up beyond the level I like. I appreciate your comments though and will go ahead and put you down as undecided then. :-D

Actually, I admire your work, your dedication, your humour, and your personality. You seem like a great hands-on kinda guy who waits for no-one, and who likes to take the initiative, which is a great thing in itself. I also completely understand what you are trying to accomplish. For someone who started this domain game late, or for those of us who can't write blank checks, the niche markets, website developments, and new extensions are the ONLY way to go.

Its just that I don't see how can you even bother with the new extensions # the wholesale level right now? I understand you make a lot of sales, but it seems like you really don't "make money", because you re-invest your sales right back into buying more names. Whatever you make, you spend. Sure, you have lots of hits, but you also have a lot more misses, at least for now.

Anyway, I guess my beef was with your latest frontpage where you mock the only established and profitable internet extensions in existence, just so you can enthusiastically (and un-deserveingly) over-promote those stillborn baby ext's that, in the greater scheme of things, still mean, more or less, nothing (or very little.)

Don't get me wrong, I think its a great thing to be at the forefront of the future...but what if that future never arrives?

 

[NameTower]

I like .info and .us

Unfortunately I cannot get involved with .us as I am Canadian, but I think for 3 letter domains in specific, if a US company cant get the .com, a .us is a great solution, and these sell almost at cost right now. Some other one word and 2 word combinations also do good if they are descriptive of what you are selling, but mainly for the acronyms I see a good future.

I see .info getting typeins (eventually) therefore I have faith in top keywords, and the 3 letters.

The 3 letter.info market is very strong as some of you might have noticed, even with speculator sales.

I think what Duke is focusing on is great and it has even got me to take a step back and do some research on what I might be missing in these New Extensions.

Great Site, and good luck Duke!

- Jordan

 

[bidawinner]

Very nice site Ron.

Sharpy ..you are looking exceptional attractive today :charming :cheeky:

 

[Duke]

I understand you make a lot of sales, but it seems like you really don't "make money", because you re-invest your sales right back into buying more names. Whatever you make, you spend. Sure, you have lots of hits, but you also have a lot more misses, at least for now.

Anyway, I guess my beef was with your latest frontpage where you mock the only established and profitable internet extensions in existence, just so you can enthusiastically (and un-deserveingly) over-promote those stillborn baby ext's that, in the greater scheme of things, still mean, more or less, nothing (or very little.)

Don't get me wrong, I think its a great thing to be at the forefront of the future...but what if that future never arrives?

You make a lot of wrong assumptions there Cap. I do make a lot of sales and I do reinvest a lot of that money into buying more names. But how do you think I am paying for my house, cars, living expenses, a very expensive teenage daughter, etc? I assure you I am not independently wealthy. There is a sizeable profit above and beyond what I reinvest in more inventory. I only reinvest what I can afford. That fact means your second point is also incorrect. I can tell you for a dead certain fact that the old extensions are NOT the only profitable internet extensions in existence. You may not know how to make a profit from the others, but that is not the extension's fault.

Third, the question of "what if that future never arrives" is now a moot point. It has already arrived. A lot of people who are not involved in the New TLD market as closely as I am just don't seem to know it. Though honestly I can't for the life of me see how they could miss it. If you even casually follow the news in this business you can see what is happening. Or do you think companies like Sedo and Afternic that are now reporting four and five figure new TLD sales every week (some of which have been mine) are part of the "conspiracy" too? I just got Sedo's sales data for past week and they had another load of four figure .info sales matching the huge week they had last week (when there were five 4-figure .info sales and only two in .net and zero in .org).

I'm sorry you didn't like the portrayal of the old extensions but as I explained in the opening post, this is a common marketing tactic used in EVERY major business. I am just applying a lot of things I learned in other fields to the domain business. Those portrayals are right for meeting the aims of that site. Com and Org will be portrayed quite differently on my old extension site because it will be aimed at a different target.

Finally, since I am making a nice living from the new TLD's (one that is getting better every month), why would I not shift my focus to where most of my money is coming from? Making a living is why I am here in the first place - did you have a different reason for getting involved in the business?

 

[sasquatch]

But how do you think I am paying for my house, cars, living expenses, a very expensive teenage daughter, etc?

If you are paying for your house, your cars, living expenses and a very expensive teenage daughter with the sale proceeds of your undeveloped, (mostly) wholesale, new ext. domains, then my hat is off to you.

I have certainly misjudged the level of your success. So if the future is already here for you - more power to you.

 

[NameTower]

If you are paying for your house, your cars, living expenses and a very expensive teenage daughter with the sale proceeds of your undeveloped, (mostly) wholesale, new ext. domains, then my hat is off to you.

I had certainly misjudged the level of your success. So, more power to you.

Do not doubt the sucess of Mr. Duke :-D

 

[sasquatch]

Do not doubt the sucess of Mr. Duke :-D

"Success" is a vastly broad term. I never doubted a certain level of success. I just didn't comprehend the true "extension" of this one. No pun intended of course :-D

 

[Duke]

If you are paying for your house, your cars, living expenses and a very expensive teenage daughter with the sale proceeds of your undeveloped, (mostly) wholesale, new ext. domains, then my hat is off to you.

I have certainly misjudged the level of your success. So if the future is already here for you - more power to you.

Thanks Cap - but just for the record, in recent weeks most of my new TLD sales have been to small business end users - not wholesale. In fact I am selling less and less wholesale because I have been raising the prices. There is no longer any reason to give good names away for a small profit (In fact, I could see myself stopping wholesale sales all together before the year is out).

Small businesses have simply been priced out of the .com market. They are delighted to find a $200-$500 option for a good word or term. I sell several in that range every week now (and even the occasional $1,000 sale like MMN.biz and TOI.info to bigger companies). You don't make a killing in one shot like you could with a major .com (assuming you owned a major .com in the first place), but it adds up quickly. Figure that most of those domains were acquired for $7 when no one else was interested in them and you can see what kind of ROI is involved (especially when they have almost all been turned over in less than 6 months).

 

[sasquatch]

Actually, being a supporter of new extensions I've purchased a geographic-term .info for high xxx myself... (a little while ago.) Certainly couldn't afford the .com version, so I figure let me grab this one while I can, and before it too - gets priced out of my range. So now, I'm in the process of developing it.

Btw, do you solicit your small business end-users, or do they approach you? Or, is it both? (50-50?)

 

[David G]

......I'm sorry you didn't like the portrayal of the old extensions but as I explained in the opening post, this is a common marketing tactic used in EVERY major business. I am just applying a lot of things I learned in other fields to the domain business. Those portrayals are right for meeting the aims of that site. Com and Org will be portrayed quite differently on my old extension site because it will be aimed at a different target.......

Cap, you should realize it's only smart business for Duke and others to use targeted and niche marketing, especially if you have the means to do so (i.e. multiple web-sites). I also do this a lot with different websites highly targeted toward diverse subjects and goals. There is also no moral code needed or mandated need to point out or advertise any perceived negativities, which may or may not detract from your service or product.

As I said before: ....... re duke concentrating more on the newer ext with the new web-site, an overall excellent plan for his new site.......this is another example how the use of multiple websites targeting different areas is so valuable, and one reason I have many diverse sites myself."

 

[Duke]

Actually, being a supporter of new extensions I've purchased a geographic-term .info for high xxx myself... (a little while ago.) Certainly couldn't afford the .com version, so I figure let me grab this one while I can, and before it too - gets priced out of my range. So now, I'm in the process of developing it.

Btw, do you solicit your small business end-users, or do they approach you? Or, is it both? (50-50?)

If that is a good geographic .info I think you will be well rewarded for your purchase. I usually don't approach businesses (more from a lack of time than anything else). The majority make offers after typing in terms they like and landing on my PPC/For Sale page (generated at Fabulous.com).

I do think I am now benefitting greatly from scale. A guy might hold 100 new TLD domains and rarely get an offer because he isn't holding a domain someone is looking for at this time. With over 3,000 of them I get multiple offers daily. I only need interest in 3 or 4 out of 3,000 names each day with one of those converting to a sale and that is usually what happens. For example, I've already sold an .info and a .com today (both in three figures - and yes I still sell com which is undeniably the king of the hill).

 

[actnow]

Ok, Duke. Let's talk money. We got all of these people coming to the site because
of this posting.

How much in royalties did I make today from my .com picture? The only reason I ask, is because I want to know if I can afford to eat dinner tonight.

Once, Duke's site becomes famous. I am going to auction off the chair on Ebay.

 

[Duke]

Well Richard, the jury is still out on whether your picture (as the .com poster boy) is helping or hurting. There is one school of thought that you look so disgusting in that photo that it immediately drives people away from the site before they look at the listings!

 

[izopod]

I think Duke is creating an empire for himself. He who controls the "press" and the "product" wins!! Well done...

As far as the .com domain being made fun of on Duke's site I think it again shows his marketing prowess. It's a BRILLIANT IDEA people!! Most small business owners who are just starting new businesses would love to get a decent dot com address (heck we all would), but unfortunately most of the good ones are gone. So they can either pay a pretty steep sum up front for a dot com they want OR buy a name from Duke.

Best of luck. Wish I had as much energy as you do Duke. It must be something in the south Florida air!! (hey, next marketing idea: Domain in a bottle???)

 

[actnow]

Well Richard, the jury is still out on whether your picture (as the .com poster boy) is helping or hurting. There is one school of thought that you look so disgusting in that photo that it immediately drives people away from the site before they look at the listings!

Hey!!!! That picture was taken on a "good" day.

I am still disappointed that you cut the picture. I wanted everyone to see
the holes in my underwear !!!

 

[DomainOgre]

Do not doubt the sucess of Mr. Duke :-D

Nope, never . He beat me today on a name just like he did Tippy lol.

Great pick up, Duke. Congrats .