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NameYourself said:
Geez, can't believe a .net gets this much traffic.. then again PartyPoker advertises on tv using PartyPoker.NET rather than their .COM for some reason. Maybe that's partly why it's getting the traffic right now. Good luck, I'd sell.

as far as i can tell seller didn't ask u whether u would sell -- so why bother with such comments then?

are we ever going to learn to keep our thoughts, in other ppl's sales threads, to ourselves?
 

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whatchamacallit said:
as far as i can tell seller didn't ask u whether u would sell -- so why bother with such comments then?

are we ever going to learn to keep our thoughts, in other ppl's sales threads, to ourselves?

And thank you for your comments as well.
 

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4+ years of rev up front on a 1.5 year old poker craze? good luck.
 

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Only time will tell if this is a 1.5 year "poker craze". Online gambling has been getting bigger and bigger since the internet began. Yes, poker is particularly popular in the media right now but there is no reason to suggest the popularity of online gambling will diminish after 4+ years or earlier.
 

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yes, the people will stop playing poker forever, and will switch to dominos instead.
 

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whatchamacallit said:
yes, the people will stop playing poker forever, and will switch to dominos instead.

well, let's just say that if the average online poker player was aware of the level of cheathing that exists in the virtual rooms, he'd think twice about playing.

all it takes now to destroy the poker craze is the media blowing up certain cheating practices in use. i won't go into details, but unfortunately there is not much that can be done to stop people from cheating.

of course, i don't think they'll blow it up just yet, they don't even know it's happening.
 

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This is just crazy, but pokerdomains are really hot atm.
But is this really true?
 

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FormerDnForumer said:
Luc, you're just displaying your ignorance again..

if you have something to say that's not an insult, if you disagree, state your opinion. otherwise, go back to gfy...

err, sorry to crap up your sales thread glo.
 

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Luc said:
if you have something to say that's not an insult, if you disagree, state your opinion. otherwise, go back to gfy...

err, sorry to crap up your sales thread glo.

You already crapped up his sales thread with your opinion on a soon to default poker craze as you stated. Actually, a lot of major poker companies are using the .net now as free learning tools for the beginners ... such as PartyPoker.net, PokerStars.net etc...

Regardless, saying that poker will soon become unpopular I believe to be false. This year the world series of poker will have the largest prize ever, which is due mostly from all the online play which has boomed. I see that online poker will be steadily increasing if anything as interested kids get older and want to try it out. As far as talking about online "cheating" ... well if you can't beat a "poker bot" then i guess i can see where you have an issue. The rest of us will continue winning steady income as usual from all the new fishies.
 

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Luc said:
well, let's just say that if the average online poker player was aware of the level of cheathing that exists in the virtual rooms, he'd think twice about playing.

all it takes now to destroy the poker craze is the media blowing up certain cheating practices in use. i won't go into details, but unfortunately there is not much that can be done to stop people from cheating.

of course, i don't think they'll blow it up just yet, they don't even know it's happening.

well i disagree. that's like saying people won't have sex any more, because there's aids around.

cheating in poker has been around since the time of saloons. besides, the cheating with real-life slot machines is also prevalent (programmed in such way to take more than to give) but people are still playing it. in fact, it's the biggest source of income for any casino.

you can't scare people so easily because we are greedy and stupid by nature, and will always keeping trying our 'lady luck' in the game of life.

it's a game of chance, and as long as there is a chance no matter how slim - we will be lining up for our shot at it.
 

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JEsports said:
You already crapped up his sales thread with your opinion on a soon to default poker craze as you stated. Actually, a lot of major poker companies are using the .net now as free learning tools for the beginners ... such as PartyPoker.net, PokerStars.net etc...

Regardless, saying that poker will soon become unpopular I believe to be false. This year the world series of poker will have the largest prize ever, which is due mostly from all the online play which has boomed. I see that online poker will be steadily increasing if anything as interested kids get older and want to try it out. As far as talking about online "cheating" ... well if you can't beat a "poker bot" then i guess i can see where you have an issue. The rest of us will continue winning steady income as usual from all the new fishies.

no one makes money giving services away for free. partypoker.com cannot advertise their paid service because online gambling is illegal in the US, so they lure people into their free site, which downloads the same program used to play for money. so, i don't really see what your point is with the original paragraph.

it's obvious you have no idea how advanced online cheating has become. this is similar with everyone so i don't blame you.

here is the thing, i think you're getting offended because you have invested money in poker domains, you are making money with poker domains, and then I come along and make you question whether this steady flow of income will continue forever. well, for the record, I make money with poker domains as well so I'm equally concerned with my profits dropping. you don't have to get so defensive, and my original comment still stands, online poker cheating will probably ruin "the image" of online poker within the next few years.

whatchamacallit...

casinos are designed to make money and most people are aware of the fact that casinos ALWAYS win in the long run. casinos don't cheat, they don't have to, the odds are always in their favor and statistically they win.

when the "average", non-investor, non-computer-geek joe plays online poker, he is not aware of the fact that he is potentially being cheated out of his money. i can honestly say i wasn't when i started playing a few months ago.

one more question for both you guys...

if you watched CNN and they told you that there is an unknown number of automated bots, executed by other players, designed to play, win and extract the maximum possible out of an unsuspecting human player, proven to win money, would you STILL play poker? would you still sign up knowing that there is a chance that you're playing against a machine that's designed to beat you?

casinos are fun. people go for the thrill, the fun, the life. casino machines are constantly inspected to comply with commission standards. no one checks bots for obvious reasons.
 

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Luc said:
no one makes money giving services away for free. partypoker.com cannot advertise their paid service because online gambling is illegal in the US, so they lure people into their free site, which downloads the same program used to play for money. so, i don't really see what your point is with the original paragraph.

My previous point about the use of poker related .net's increasing was in regards to other members quotes about a .net getting that much traffic, and wasnt directly related to your unwarranted comment about poker traffic "fading away".

Luc said:
you don't have to get so defensive, and my original comment still stands, online poker cheating will probably ruin "the image" of online poker within the next few years.

My comment was not meant to come accross as being "defensive" and I apologize if it did. Everyone is entitled there comments about anything they like, whether it be opinion or fact. However there is a better place for such than another person's sales thread and the personal comments in these threads on this forum have gotten out of hand.

Luc said:
if you watched CNN and they told you that there is an unknown number of automated bots, executed by other players, designed to play, win and extract the maximum possible out of an unsuspecting human player, proven to win money, would you STILL play poker? would you still sign up knowing that there is a chance that you're playing against a machine that's designed to beat you?

If you have proven facts to make about online cheating, then do so ... a poker bot is nothing more than a human made poker program from historical average statistics of particular hands with recommended actions to take ... and so forth and so on. All of this so called "cheating" with a poker bot has gotten overemphasized by you among others ... when in actuallity, it is nothing more than a man made computer program that runs an average technique. If you can't spot these type of plays at the poker table, then yes, it will affect your winnings. Actually, anyone can read all of the same information you are trying to state in many ebay adds from people who sell these poker bots online. In my opinion, the more the better ... I'll take on 9 poker bots anyday.
 

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JEsports said:
My previous point about the use of poker related .net's increasing was in regards to other members quotes about a .net getting that much traffic, and wasnt directly related to your unwarranted comment about poker traffic "fading away".



My comment was not meant to come accross as being "defensive" and I apologize if it did. Everyone is entitled there comments about anything they like, whether it be opinion or fact. However there is a better place for such than another person's sales thread and the personal comments in these threads on this forum have gotten out of hand.



If you have proven facts to make about online cheating, then do so ... a poker bot is nothing more than a human made poker program from historical average statistics of particular hands with recommended actions to take ... and so forth and so on. All of this so called "cheating" with a poker bot has gotten overemphasized by you among others ... when in actuallity, it is nothing more than a man made computer program that runs an average technique. If you can't spot these type of plays at the poker table, then yes, it will affect your winnings. Actually, anyone can read all of the same information you are trying to state in many ebay adds from people who sell these poker bots online. In my opinion, the more the better ... I'll take on 9 poker bots anyday.

you have the wrong idea of what advanced poker bots are capable of and i don't really think this is the right thread to discuss it. if you wish to discuss it further, pm me. i will request that the last few threads starting with mine be removed since they don't really contribute to the sale.
 

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Luc said:
casinos are designed to make money

as opposed to online poker places which are designed to lose money?

Luc said:
and most people are aware of the fact that casinos ALWAYS win in the long run.

as opposed to online poker players who are convinced that online poker places ALWAYS loose in the long run?

Luc said:
casinos don't cheat, they don't have to, the odds are always in their favor and statistically they win.
so a slot machine doesn't cheat, because casinos make money on players giving tips to cocktail waitressess?

a slot machine is not designed and programmed by a ruthless capitalist, but by jesus who cares about the fairness and equality amongst players??

fyi, the latest slot machines are nothing but the pieces of software - just like online poker is.

furthermore, u think that institutions of power and politicians are not greased by powerful gambling lobby to look the other way?

Luc said:
when the "average", non-investor, non-computer-geek joe plays online poker, he is not aware of the fact that he is potentially being cheated out of his money.

who do u think plays the slot machines if not the "average" ppl? they are not aware either.
 

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Luc said:
if you have something to say that's not an insult, if you disagree, state your opinion. otherwise, go back to gfy...

err, sorry to crap up your sales thread glo.


I think if you're going to crap in someone's thread and your reply is based on ignorance, it's only appropriate that those who know better let you know so perhaps next time you'll think before you crap.
 

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you're completely missing the point. you're comparing casinos to online poker operators. slot machines to poker bots. jesus to capitalists.

when you play online poker you're playing against ANOTHER PLAYER.
when you play slots you play against THE CASINO, THE HOUSE, IT.

so in plain english, when you play against a big old casino that has been around for ages, you don't EXPECT your odds to be good. after all, if most people won, the casino wouldn't be in business any more right?

well, if you play against an ordinary joe, just like you and me, you expect more favorable odds, correct? well, what if you found out that that average joe you just lost all your money to was actually a bot designed to play poker, and instead of playing against a human, you were playing against a machine. doesn't sound fair does it? well, that's not EVEN scratching the surface yet.

i can honestly say that i think you need to do some research, learn a bit about online gambling vs casino gambling and PM me if you wish to discuss this further. i'm always open to discussions, just feel bad that this entire thread got crapped up by non-sales posts.

FormerDnForumer said:
I think if you're going to crap in someone's thread and your reply is based on ignorance, it's only appropriate that those who know better let you know so perhaps next time you'll think before you crap.

ok. in that case i'm letting you know. don't crap. now go back to gfy, crapping is allowed there.
 

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Luc said:
when you play online poker you're playing against ANOTHER PLAYER.

wow ;)) ok, since you are 'playing' against ANOTHER PLAYER - what do u complain about? odds are not against you as if u were playing against the house, right?

Luc said:
you're completely missing the point. you're comparing casinos to online poker operators.

wow ;) so what exactly is an 'online poker operator', if not another word for 'online casino'? unlike real-life poker which could be a game of skill, the online poker can never be just game of skill -- because as soon as you introduce the word 'online', it implies some sort of computerized software interface, and computerized sofwtare we all know is breachable, vulnerable, adoptable, adjustable, re-programmable by humans? so if there is a chance that this 'online environment' is breachable -- u bettere believe it already is.

so u really are playing against the house, the moment u r not face to face with another human being.

my god, u r talking about so much money floating around these places, combined with the anonimity of internet, and offshore locations -- and u r telling me u r just playing against ANOTHER PLAYER, and not the house??????

pheeew.......
 

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confidence in online poker rooms will go down once average users realize they can be cheated heavily by other players utilizing automated systems. all it takes for that to happen is for media to blow it up like they do to everything else. this is from my first post. we're going in circles. i'm done posting here. it's not helping the guy sell his domain. if you still feel like arguing, shoot me a PM.
 
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