T.r.a.f.f.i.c. 2004

[ShaunP]

A g r e e t h a t n e t w o r k i n g i s b e n e f i c i a l but networking with the right people!

The thing is

1) It is not about Rick but "register" page is 100% about Rick and his board only.

2) Altho $1000-$5000 is not that big money, buy what player big or small will want to pay it knowing they will likely not get what is being advertised?
Again, what a crook who sends traffic to fabulous.com can teach you? I have nothing against fabulous.com, they are a nice company but they are non-competitive when we compare them to google and/or overture.

3) Who will come to the conference when such a jackass hostes it? Tell me who? I can bet $10 000 that you will not see 5% of top 100 players there.

4) This is business, not personal. Not personal. Not personal. Only an idiot would want to personolize a business conference. Take a look at register page http://www.targetedtraffic.com/register.html
It comes out that if you are not a member of Rick's personal board, you should pay 5 times more than if you are a member of his board where if you you want to becomea member you will need to demonstrate loyalty to someone you have no respect to and who is a totally crooked jackass.

This conferrence seems to be a private party of Rick "the King" with a party ticket ranging from $1000 - $5000. He probably thinks he is Madonna or Britney Spears. There'll benothing to see, I bet and since it's a personal party, forget the business.

No Blink ... I said don't hold back ... tell us how ya really feel. None of the sugar coating ... let it out. k:

Shaun

 

[Steen]

VERY proud member ... got a problem with it Steen?

Shaun

No (not at all), I just found it humorous when it was in your signature.

No Blink ... I said don't hold back ... tell us how ya really feel. None of the sugar coating ... let it out.

That moth...
Hmm, maybe not.

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I love how the fee schedule works.

 

[Deleted member 4749]

No Blink ... I said don't hold back ... tell us how ya really feel. None of the sugar coating ... let it out. k:

Shaun

What I feel is Rick is bad for business and for the people that's what I feel.
If this conference is a money making scheme then the industry will experience a big wave of distrust and future legitimate conferences will be negatively affected.
I feel that dispite all disutes and disagreement, most domainers are good people and I want the industry to move in a positive direction.

I look forward seeing a really top of the line conference being organized in one of the most beautiful resorts of the world where it will be led by industry leaders and where you will not be ripped off.

Since traffic 2004 is the first conference, it will set up a tone for future conferences and since its hosted by a total jackass and has loyalty-based fees, the tone it sets is unacceptable..

That's why I'm speaking out. I want to express that this is unacceptable. Do not consider this conference as a usual conference. It has nothing to do with domain business. It is not hosted by good people (altho there are good sponsors involved). It is not how domain industry or any other ethical industry operates. Again, it has nothing to do with domain industry, domain people or domain forums and domain industry is not loyalty-based.

People who demand loyalty are miserable and they lack confidence and vision which usually attracts loyalty.

 

[David G]

It is alleged.......Please note that comments made here carry the disclaimer that this post is purely ficticious and makes no reference, explicitly, implicitly and otherwise, to any person dead, living or somewhere in between :-D

Your pubic disclaimer may be even better than alleging it.

 

[yanni]

>>It is not hosted by good people (altho there are good sponsors involved).<<

Can you explain how good and reputable sponsors would do business with "no good" people?

 

[A D]

Were you kicked out of Rick's board too?

I was never on it nor invited to be on it.

Dnforum can not be expected to endorse an event it is not a part of.

no business would do that.

-=DCG=-

 

[Deleted member 4749]

>>It is not hosted by good people (altho there are good sponsors involved).<<

Can you explain how good and reputable sponsors would do business with "no good" people?

That's a question to me.

 

[clemzonguy]

I was never on it nor invited to be on it.

Dnforum can not be expected to endorse an event it is not a part of.

no business would do that.

-=DCG=-

Then let DnForum endorse it's own conference the week following maybe or even the same week and let's get together in Atlanta, GA which would rule out that any of the people at the Florida conference couldn't be in two places at the same time therefore weeding out anyone involved with Rick. For ~$200 per person to help cover expenses I think we could pull off a reasonably successful event. Maybe it's time the industry find out who the real players are instead of the real crooks lol.

 

[joezeppy]

Blink,

Rick might have his eccentricities, but over three years, I've not seen him deviate from a set of solid principals. Rick has managed a private, online community where it is possible to have some fun, learn from some of the best, and make good acquaintances.

Compare that to the old days of Afternic, etc, where there were so many personal distractions such as your's above, that it was not possible, nor worth one's time to sift through it all for any real or valuable knowledge.

By the way, most organizations offer member discounts. That's not unethical in any way. Many members contributed ideas to the event.

 

[clemzonguy]

Who from this forum is going?

Who from this forum are board members?

 

[izoot]

Then let DnForum endorse it's own conference the week following maybe or even the same week and let's get together in Atlanta, GA which would rule out that any of the people at the Florida conference couldn't be in two places at the same time therefore weeding out anyone involved with Rick. For ~$200 per person to help cover expenses I think we could pull off a reasonably successful event. Maybe it's time the industry find out who the real players are instead of the real crooks lol.

If I recall correctly DNForum attempted to do a conference awhile back and it never happened. I'm not sure the reasoning behind it but maybe it would work this time? btw...what sponsors and speakers would you have at the Atlanta conference...seems that many of the main companies you would want sponsoring the event already have made a commitment elsewhere.

As to t.r.a.f.f.i.c ... some of the biggest companies in our biz are sponsoring the event...I'm sure its costing a signifigant amount of time and money on their part and I'm sure if it was as some in this thread would accuse a "Scam"... these companies would not have any part of it. Unless your assuming that people/companies like FMA, Fabulous, DomainSponsor or the others are just out to scam you ... that would be a poor assumption.

Just becasue you folks may not like Rick for whatever reason or that he is the organizer doesn't add any crediblity to your claims of a scam ... if you have any claims that can be substansiated please post them it will help your case. So far all you guys have show is you
personal issues with Rick. Yakov...why so hostile ... if your doing so well why bother slamming people? Thats not an appropriate thing for a successful business person to do ... maybe your mad that people didn't take to your spamming very well?

No one is forcing anyone to come to the conference, and no one will fault you for not coming. But for you guys to sit here and make unfounded claims of criminality is pretty lame ...

btw...clemzonguy...

Maybe it's time the industry find out who the real players are instead of the real crooks lol.

That would be great...Since you obviously have some insider knowledge...maybe could you point out who the crooks are for us now? Seems you know somethng the rest of us don't.

 

[Deleted member 4749]

I'm not going.
I would go to a conference if it was hosted by Adam, Slavik, Shawn or other good people.

If I recall correctly DNForum attempted to do a conference awhile back and it never happened. I'm not sure the reasoning behind it but maybe it would work this time? btw...what sponsors and speakers would you have at the Atlanta conference...seems that many of the main companies you would want sponsoring the event already have made a commitment elsewhere.

As to t.r.a.f.f.i.c ... some of the biggest companies in our biz are sponsoring the event...I'm sure its costing a signifigant amount of time and money on their part and I'm sure if it was as some in this thread would accuse a "Scam"... these companies would not have any part of it. Unless your assuming that people/companies like FMA, Fabulous, DomainSponsor or the others are just out to scam you ... that would be a poor assumption.

Just becasue you folks may not like Rick for whatever reason or that he is the organizer doesn't add any crediblity to your claims of a scam ... if you have any claims that can be substansiated please post them it will help your case. So far all you guys have show is you
personal issues with Rick. Yakov...why so hostile ... if your doing so well why bother slamming people? Thats not an appropriate thing for a successful business person to do ... maybe your mad that people didn't take to your spamming very well?

No one is forcing anyone to come to the conference, and no one will fault you for not coming. But for you guys to sit here and make unfounded claims of criminality is pretty lame ...

btw...clemzonguy...


That would be great...Since you obviously have some insider knowledge...maybe could you point out who the crooks are for us now? Seems you know somethng the rest of us don't.

Ok, so are you paying $5000 to see Rick or do you really believe you will get to know how to monetize your traffic more effectively from someone who's using fabulous.com? You would make sense if you were to go to the conference, assuming you are not a member of Ricks board, for like $5000?

 

[izoot]

I'm not going.
I would go to a conference if it was hosted by Adam, Slavik, Shawn or other good people.

Ok, so are you paying $5000 to see Rick or do you really believe you will get to
know how to monetize your traffic more effectively from someone who's using
fabulous.com? You would make sense if you were to go to the conference,
assuming you are not a member of Ricks board, for like $5000?

You seem to be stuck on Rick ... you are aware he's not the only one speaking
there ... aren't you?

Also ... no one is forcing you to come ... theres many conferences out there,
you are free to choose to go whereever you would like ... I promise I won't criticize
you for wherever you would choose to go....and I promise not to make unfounded
accusations about those conferences.

As to Fabulous...I have nothing but good things to say about my experiences with
them...they have a great ppc for gambling and adult traffic and also one of the best
redirect/domain management systems out there.

You are also assuming that people haven't worked out deals privately to work best
for both them and fabulous...how do you assume to know what the best method is
and why is your method better than the next guy? More importantly whats the
difference? You have obviously found a system that works for you and thats great ...
maybe if you spent less time slamming and more time offering your wealth of
knowledge you would be getting a better response.

Please post what your methods are ... I am always open to learning more.

I am going to the conference and no I am not spending $5000 to do it as I am a
member of the board. And as much as you would like to make it sound like Rick
is the only person that posts anything of substance there or that we are made to
bow down to Rick upon logging in ... it would it is nothing but an assumption on your
part as its not true.

Either way to look upon this conference as strictly a board related conference would
be wrong...it is far more than that.

 

[A D]

Well, I for one cannot knock Rick or his board.

I have never had any interaction with him and have never been invited to visit the board.

-=DCG=-

 

[mole]

Please post what your methods are ... I am always open to learning more.

Good idea k:

 

[URLCollection]

Well, I for one cannot knock Rick or his board.
I have never had any interaction with him and have never been invited to visit the board.
-=DCG=-

I will second that Adam - Never been invited to their private board but did get an invite to this conference from several board members. It is very apparent that our industry needs some type of a conference or seminar. We were ready to work on the last one you had planned Adam. Whether this traffic conference is the ticket or not, is yet to be seen. I know of a number of friends in our industry that do plan to attend. I think it is not right to beat up this seminar based on your feelings for Rick. He is a key player in our industry from long ago, and for that, he probally deserves the same respect that we all would want. Just my thoughts - Steve

 

[David G]

....He is a key player in our industry from long ago, and for that, he probally deserves the same respect that we all would want. Just my thoughts - Steve

That may be so but it's very tough to give respect to someone who allegedly uses every 4 letter word in the book in public to people who he does not like for some minor reason.

 

[DrDomains]

Jesus...how do you folks make money bashing others? What a waste of time and energy. Truth be told, Rick was preaching the value of domains long before most of us even jumped into this game. He's done more to advance our cause and enhance the value of erealestate than almost anyone I know. You don't want to come to the conference? That's fine. Sit home in front of your computer and bash a guy you've never met. That will undoubtedly double your revenues in 2005.

 

[ShaunP]

Maybe it's time the industry find out who the real players are instead of the real crooks lol.

clemzonguy .. I'd love to know who you were exactly refering to. Care to enlighten me?

Shaun

Jesus...how do you folks make money bashing others? What a waste of time and energy. Truth be told, Rick was preaching the value of domains long before most of us even jumped into this game. He's done more to advance our cause and enhance the value of erealestate than almost anyone I know. You don't want to come to the conference? That's fine. Sit home in front of your computer and bash a guy you've never met. That will undoubtedly double your revenues in 2005.

DrDomains ... good post. Bottom line, this event brings together many of the most important companies that serve the domain business and many of the industry players that they service. The event will bring media attention that in the short and long term, will benefit all domainers.

In my opinion, this is an event that any person that is serious about the domain business, should find a way to attend. If domains are just a hobby to you, then maybe this event is not for you. This event is about the DOMAIN BUSINESS, not Rick Swartz. He just had the forethought and balls to get the ball rolling.

Put personalities aside and petty ego's and come to an event that will influence the domain business in a manner that matters the most ... the bottom line!

Shaun

PS ... the above is my opinion only. No Morons were harmed in it's creation.

 

[David G]

Jesus...how do you folks make money bashing others? What a waste of time and energy. Truth be told, Rick was preaching the value of domains long before most of us even jumped into this game. He's done more to advance our cause and enhance the value of erealestate than almost anyone I know. You don't want to come to the conference? That's fine. Sit home in front of your computer and bash a guy you've never met. That will undoubtedly double your revenues in 2005.

I already posted this earlier "The views do not detract from his incredible domain portfolio and great success in generating income, combined with his pioneering work and great knowledge of type-in traffic, being the #1 type-in traffic guru when most of us did not even know what a type-in even was some yrs ago."