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Regretfully, I feel compelled to post about a very, very negative experience with one of our fellow members.
We ordered 51 content mini sites from Member www.LoudBeats.net (Jay Mahal / Soofi Group / www.dont.net).
Per his post (now deleted by Admin on DNF, but still available at another forum), the turn around per site was supposed to be 2-3 working days per site. At his convenience, when he realized he could not deliver in the required time frame, the turn around changed to 3-5 days per site. So now, for a job that should have taken a max of 153 working days, itâs now going to take up to 255 days, and even that timeframe didn't look like something he'd be able to achieve. For a handful of sites, we could of lived with a small delay, but for this quantity, time was of the essense. For your information, not a SINGLE site was EVER fully completed as per his post from early May to August 9th when he quit!
Additionally, we agreed to pay $10 extra per site for a quantity of 4-5 images relevant to the site content. Only ONE site had ONE relevant image. The rest either had NO image or a SINGLE image that had no relevance to the site content. When we complained about this shortcoming, required quantity suddenly changed from 4-5 images per site, to ONE image per site, again at his convenience. Who in their right mind is going to pay $10 for a single image?
Of the 51 sites ordered, he dabbled with a total of 16, but not one met the requirements of his own post or the 4-5 relevant images ordered per site.
We advanced him $525 to commence work, and before additional money was due, he requested a $300 "Loan". We agreed to the loan, and advised him to apply it to the future balance.
When we repeatedly asked him to complete the sites he had started, including the images, he abruptly decided he didn't want to do business with us AND he kept our money to the tune of $825.00. That's correct, he decided he didn't want to work for us anymore, and he decided to keep our money.
Mr. Mahal's website www.soofigroup.com, referenced in his post, states he has a "money back guarantee". Folks, he DOES NOT honor this guarantee. In any case, independent of this guarantee, we offered him to keep the initial payment of $525, but asked him to please refund the $300 âloanâ. By our calculation (noted below) we thought this would be fair for the work done, despite it was not in accordance with the agreement. He refused the partial refund and in fact, claimed he was owed MORE money and that the money back guarantee on www.soofigroup.com, which he references in his post, was not applicable.
Here is how we calculated the amount due, which we considered as generous considering the breach of contract:
Minisites developed: 16 x 25 = $400
Inclusion of images: 0 (none met the quantity requirement of 4-5, and/or relevancy to the site)
Set up google adsense channels: 16 x $5 = $80
TOTAL: $480.00
Amount Paid: $525 +$300 = $825.00
Refund Due: $345.00 / we offered to settle for a $300 refund.
We filed a dispute with PayPal; however, unbeknownst to us, PayPal considers such services digital and intangible items, and our claim was denied, permitting Mr. Mahal to abscond with our money and basically rub it in our face with a tirade of obscenities after the fact. Mr. Mahal, it seems, was quite versed on the "intangible items" loophole at PayPal, having been a victim himself (information gleaned from a post on another forum). So, Mr. Mahal knew this loophole and used it to his advantage in his reply to our PayPal dispute.
I subsequently became aware of problems other people had with him. He went on a self imposed exile from NP because of an ongoing dispute with management and because of this case. Heâs since been banned.
I realize MANY of you have had favorable experiences with him, but I feel compelled to advise fellow domainers about my experience with this service supplier. As you can see, heâs pretty much fallen off the face of the earth here at DNF since about the 16th, as he know this has been looming. Looks like heâs only been on long enough to leave me negative i-trader feedback on both forums, which has now been removed. Mr. Mahal claim I'm a freebie seeker and a scammer who will take off with your money! I'm cracking up!! Sure would like to hear more about how I scammed him!
If you're going to have any work done, independent of trader rating and that sort of thing, use an escrow service or use a reputable "real" company, who doesn't quit the job when they can't deliver, or withdraw from one forum when things get tough, only to go set up shop at another forum.
I am requesting DNFâs Admins and Moderators assistance to resolving this matter. If it cannot be resolved, I am requesting he be permanently banned. This sort of behavior is totally unacceptable. I left negative i-trader feedback for Mr. Mahal, but apparently somebody deleted it for him. Folks, he's been banned from NP and apparently whoever deleted it for him was unaware of this.
In his attempt to apparently shield his fraud at the other forum, prior to being banned, Mr. Mahal changed his username from www.dont.net to "soofi".
For the moment, I'd rather not reply to posts or questions until the moderators have looked into this, though I may add information; however, if you have a really burning question or comment question, please PM me.
Mods/Admins: All emails are available as they were to staff at the other forum who eventually decided to ban him.
---------- Post added at 12:39 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:10 AM ----------
Mods: Please put in correct forum if not in the right one.
We ordered 51 content mini sites from Member www.LoudBeats.net (Jay Mahal / Soofi Group / www.dont.net).
Per his post (now deleted by Admin on DNF, but still available at another forum), the turn around per site was supposed to be 2-3 working days per site. At his convenience, when he realized he could not deliver in the required time frame, the turn around changed to 3-5 days per site. So now, for a job that should have taken a max of 153 working days, itâs now going to take up to 255 days, and even that timeframe didn't look like something he'd be able to achieve. For a handful of sites, we could of lived with a small delay, but for this quantity, time was of the essense. For your information, not a SINGLE site was EVER fully completed as per his post from early May to August 9th when he quit!
Additionally, we agreed to pay $10 extra per site for a quantity of 4-5 images relevant to the site content. Only ONE site had ONE relevant image. The rest either had NO image or a SINGLE image that had no relevance to the site content. When we complained about this shortcoming, required quantity suddenly changed from 4-5 images per site, to ONE image per site, again at his convenience. Who in their right mind is going to pay $10 for a single image?
Of the 51 sites ordered, he dabbled with a total of 16, but not one met the requirements of his own post or the 4-5 relevant images ordered per site.
We advanced him $525 to commence work, and before additional money was due, he requested a $300 "Loan". We agreed to the loan, and advised him to apply it to the future balance.
When we repeatedly asked him to complete the sites he had started, including the images, he abruptly decided he didn't want to do business with us AND he kept our money to the tune of $825.00. That's correct, he decided he didn't want to work for us anymore, and he decided to keep our money.
Mr. Mahal's website www.soofigroup.com, referenced in his post, states he has a "money back guarantee". Folks, he DOES NOT honor this guarantee. In any case, independent of this guarantee, we offered him to keep the initial payment of $525, but asked him to please refund the $300 âloanâ. By our calculation (noted below) we thought this would be fair for the work done, despite it was not in accordance with the agreement. He refused the partial refund and in fact, claimed he was owed MORE money and that the money back guarantee on www.soofigroup.com, which he references in his post, was not applicable.
Here is how we calculated the amount due, which we considered as generous considering the breach of contract:
Minisites developed: 16 x 25 = $400
Inclusion of images: 0 (none met the quantity requirement of 4-5, and/or relevancy to the site)
Set up google adsense channels: 16 x $5 = $80
TOTAL: $480.00
Amount Paid: $525 +$300 = $825.00
Refund Due: $345.00 / we offered to settle for a $300 refund.
We filed a dispute with PayPal; however, unbeknownst to us, PayPal considers such services digital and intangible items, and our claim was denied, permitting Mr. Mahal to abscond with our money and basically rub it in our face with a tirade of obscenities after the fact. Mr. Mahal, it seems, was quite versed on the "intangible items" loophole at PayPal, having been a victim himself (information gleaned from a post on another forum). So, Mr. Mahal knew this loophole and used it to his advantage in his reply to our PayPal dispute.
I subsequently became aware of problems other people had with him. He went on a self imposed exile from NP because of an ongoing dispute with management and because of this case. Heâs since been banned.
I realize MANY of you have had favorable experiences with him, but I feel compelled to advise fellow domainers about my experience with this service supplier. As you can see, heâs pretty much fallen off the face of the earth here at DNF since about the 16th, as he know this has been looming. Looks like heâs only been on long enough to leave me negative i-trader feedback on both forums, which has now been removed. Mr. Mahal claim I'm a freebie seeker and a scammer who will take off with your money! I'm cracking up!! Sure would like to hear more about how I scammed him!
If you're going to have any work done, independent of trader rating and that sort of thing, use an escrow service or use a reputable "real" company, who doesn't quit the job when they can't deliver, or withdraw from one forum when things get tough, only to go set up shop at another forum.
I am requesting DNFâs Admins and Moderators assistance to resolving this matter. If it cannot be resolved, I am requesting he be permanently banned. This sort of behavior is totally unacceptable. I left negative i-trader feedback for Mr. Mahal, but apparently somebody deleted it for him. Folks, he's been banned from NP and apparently whoever deleted it for him was unaware of this.
In his attempt to apparently shield his fraud at the other forum, prior to being banned, Mr. Mahal changed his username from www.dont.net to "soofi".
For the moment, I'd rather not reply to posts or questions until the moderators have looked into this, though I may add information; however, if you have a really burning question or comment question, please PM me.
Mods/Admins: All emails are available as they were to staff at the other forum who eventually decided to ban him.
---------- Post added at 12:39 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:10 AM ----------
Mods: Please put in correct forum if not in the right one.
