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mppedersen

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I see alot of domains I bid on get picked up and I see a holding page like this

www.pictureperfectmodels.com

I know that on popular names it will usually go to auction and if pool, enom, snapnames or etc get it they out their holding page up, but I have been seeing alot of the above lately.
 

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It is one of the catch-all registrars that check for traffic.

If they caught it, it means that Pool nor Snapnames were chasing it.
 

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98%-100% of the drops are being registered the day they drop.
 

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I find it hard to belive it was not at pool or snapnames, I did not try there but the enom pre-drop bids were over $500
 

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100% of the drop is registered every day. Every single name.
 

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100% of the drop is registered every day. Every single name.
Not true, go to whois.sc and to a search, only look for deleated names, several hundred will come up depending on what you are searching for.
 

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mppedersen said:
I see alot of domains I bid on get picked up and I see a holding page like this

www.pictureperfectmodels.com

I know that on popular names it will usually go to auction and if pool, enom, snapnames or etc get it they out their holding page up, but I have been seeing alot of the above lately.

pictureperfectmodels.com was caught with snapnames
 

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cambler said:
100% of the drop is registered every day. Every single name.
No, not 100%.
I am registering drops too.
 

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sdsinc said:
No, not 100%.
I am registering drops too.


Then You are quick!!
 

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I think I will need to start listing my drops with enom, pool, snapnames and namewinner. That way I am sure to get a crack at them in an auction.

pictureperfectmodels.com was caught with snapnames

How were you able to tell?
 

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mppedersen said:
I think I will need to start listing my drops with enom, pool, snapnames and namewinner. That way I am sure to get a crack at them in an auction.



How were you able to tell?


If You monitor drops, You know.
first thing snapnames uses NS1.INTERIMNAMESERVER.COM if the domain is in auction.
 

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duh, I feel like an idiot, I should have thought of that.
 

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He could be right with 100% people register thousands of drops and then delete the ones they dont want after a 5 day test, then the drops go back into the available pool
 

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I'm not kidding. On the day of the drop, during the drop 100% of the names are registered. Period. I know this for an absolute fact.

What happens during the 5-day grace period is another matter. Many names are released during the 5-day grace period - but during the drop, no name will make it out unregistered.

And yes, individuals can and do get occasionally lucky. It's uncommon, but it happens.
 

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Wrong.
Not all drops get registered. There are still leftovers. I don't know the % but the fact is, I wait for dropping names to be available and take them. Obviously many will not be available (backordered or swallowed by the vacuum cleaner registrars...).
Even then they may be cancelled within 5 days so you have another chance to grab them... Just because they do not pull enough traffic in 5 days doesn't mean the names are bad. I assume the "vacuum cleaners" are after money (traffic) and tend to discard other factors like the instrinc quality of the name.
 

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They check the traffic for sure, but also a lot of people without knowledge which forgot to renew their domain are waiting when it drops and they plan to renew it when avilable normal way. And after they found, someone else got it, they send them an email asking to buy it. The "vacuum cleaners" ask everyone who asks 1-2 thousands and some of the ex-owners will agree to pay it. They drop the rest andmioght cash actually 6 digit every month. Just my theory, no proof though !
 

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cambler said:
I'm not kidding. On the day of the drop, during the drop 100% of the names are registered. Period. I know this for an absolute fact.

What happens during the 5-day grace period is another matter. Many names are released during the 5-day grace period - but during the drop, no name will make it out unregistered.

And yes, individuals can and do get occasionally lucky. It's uncommon, but it happens.


Argh... didnt know 100% of the drop will get sucked... 5 days grace is a big advantage for the registrars...
 

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sdsinc said:
No, not 100%.
I am registering drops too.

sdsinc,

All drops are temporarily registered. PERIOD.

They are checked for traffic over 1 to 5 days. closer to 5 days.

Then, you might be lucky enough to grab it.

However, the other traffic checking registrars might grab the name.

I occasionally see names float between 15 to 20 days.

sdsinc,
Just in case you don't you know, calling the guy in charge of one of the top 3
catching services wrong. Sure doesn't makes you look more knowledgeable
about drops.
 

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actnow said:
sdsinc,

sdsinc,
Just in case you don't you know, calling the guy in charge of one of the top 3
catching services wrong. Sure doesn't makes you look more knowledgeable
about drops.

Thats what I wanted to say.
 

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mppedersen said:
Not true, go to whois.sc and to a search, only look for deleated names, several hundred will come up depending on what you are searching for.


I stand corrected, I did not even know about the 5 day thing.

By the way I looked up Chris Ambler and this is what I found at icannwiki.org

Arguably, the first person to obtain a new GTLD through IANA for his .WEB registry, [IODesign (http://www.iodesign.com)], Christopher Ambler has been patiently waiting for an honorable outcome from the TLD selection process granting him the opportunity to operate this TLD.

In the meantime, he has spent time as a developer for Microsoft and has, since 2003, served as eNom's Chief Software Strategiest and is the author of eNom's Club Drop drop-catching service.

Ten years since taking .Web live at the request of IANA (to show the "running code" while the "rough consensus" was gathered), he still looks forward to competing with the .Web registry.

Christopher has the occasional blog entry at [Ambler On The Net (http://onthenet.ambler.net)]

I think he knows what he is talking about.
 
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