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IMO, you would need to pay someone to take that off your hands. What does it mean?
 

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Kase said:
IMO, you would need to pay someone to take that off your hands. What does it mean?

In rational argument the analysis goes before the conclusion.
 

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analyze this:
$0

:)
 

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dwrixon said:
In rational argument the analysis goes before the conclusion.

That isn't analysis, that is prejudice. It would have been a different story if it had been xn--kpr221n.info and possibly worth even more, due to the synergy!
 

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if you keep to post things like xn--kpr211n you should expect people answering that way.
If you want a real appraisal you should
1) Tell what is the domain meaning.
2) Tell which IDN it is.
3) Tell any other useful information.
 

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I can tell you:

1) it means 'typhoon'
2) japanese IDN
3) jury is out until IE7 debuts

Dave. Stop doing this. I want less competition.
 

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aldwin said:
if you keep to post things like xn--kpr211n you should expect people answering that way.
If you want a real appraisal you should
1) Tell what is the domain meaning.
2) Tell which IDN it is.
3) Tell any other useful information.


You are of course correct, but previous experience has elicited the usual torrent of abuse, so I though I would try a different tack this time.

1) Typhoon
2) Japanese
3) I had already given the Overture Score of 619,679 which the previous respondents just chose to ignore.

It like some kind of primeval ritual here, where everyone just throws rocks, at anything that it is not in their gift to comprehend, but I do appreciate you attempts to put the exchange on an intellectual footing.

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Dave Wrixon
 

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well, from just the *looks* of it.. 0000$ ... but, if it actually means something and is important I have no idea, because I know nothing of the market in which this domain may hold some value.
 

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well, from just the *looks* of it.. 0000$ ... but, if it actually means something and is important I have no idea, because I know nothing of the market in which this domain may hold some value.

You're right. The xn--blahblahblah has no meaning to anyone except machines. However, people who type this in will have keyboards that look quite different from yours or mine, and will type in 台風.com instead. Two easy Kanji characters.
 

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do overture results actually have any bearing on idns? i mean what percent of overture results are from japanese searchers searching an english word in english or their native languages?
 

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namewaiter said:
do overture results actually have any bearing on idns? i mean what percent of overture results are from japanese searchers searching an english word in english or their native languages?

How many average japanese know english and have english keyboards?

Probably the same amount of average Americans that know japanese and have japanese keyboards.

I can't believe how the people on this board cannot see that the ability to type-in native characters in the url is not going to revolutionize the way people search and look for information on the internet.

The amount of non-global thinking is just astounding. But we soon shall see won't we. I myself am not going to wait for the shoe drop to find out.


Good luck with the names. I am going and picking up some myself.

Sarcle.
 

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I would imagine ovt scores will have a material effect when IE7 debuts. At present you cannot enter 台風.com into the URL bar and get it to resolve. Firefox supports this right now, and IE7 will a few months from now.

There are overture scores for different languages. If I wanted Japanese results, I would search in yahoo.jp rather than yahoo.com.


Sarcle: shhhhh.
 

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Yeah, I probably should fill in the clueless that most of the world doesn't speak english. :-D
 

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Sarcle said:
How many average japanese know english and have english keyboards?

Probably the same amount of average Americans that know japanese and have japanese keyboards.

I can't believe how the people on this board cannot see that the ability to type-in native characters in the url is not going to revolutionize the way people search and look for information on the internet.

The amount of non-global thinking is just astounding. But we soon shall see won't we. I myself am not going to wait for the shoe drop to find out.


Good luck with the names. I am going and picking up some myself.

Sarcle.

again you miss the point - is the japanese word for typhoon - typhoon?

in france they say 'bonjour' in america we say 'hello' - 2 different words same meaning ... which would be used by the french? so do you want the idn for bonjour or for hello?



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Yeah, I probably should fill in the clueless that most of the world doesn't speak english.

clueless -who the hell are you??
 

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who the hell are you??

Well I wasn't talking to you, just the people that come in a dismiss the native characters as a fad, as if native languages are nothing compared to english.

Gosh, testy. :undecided

in france they say 'bonjour' in america we say 'hello' - 2 different words same meaning ... which would be used by the french? so do you want the idn for bonjour or for hello?


Actually yeah, you raise many valid points. Looking through a translator helps alot.
 

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again you miss the point - is the japanese word for typhoon - typhoon?

in france they say 'bonjour' in america we say 'hello' - 2 different words same meaning ... which would be used by the french? so do you want the idn for bonjour or for hello?

Japanese word for typhoon in written form is 台風. In spoken form it sounds like 'typhoon' or 'dai-fun'.

If I was Japanese, I surely wouldn't type in 'typhoon' because I don't type in English.

I think I see your confusion: english and french use a similar character set with a large overlap -- virtually identical -- so that bonjour.com won't have an IDN. It's only when you need to represent different character sets that an IDN is required.
 

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namewaiter said:
do overture results actually have any bearing on idns? i mean what percent of overture results are from japanese searchers searching an english word in english or their native languages?


Yes, they do. If you type in Japanese character into the Japanese Overture tool they will tell you how many times those characters were typed in.

If you type in English they will tell how many English searches were made. Typically less than 5% of the score for the Japanese characters.

Those that still believe the Japanese search in English are still reading Superman comics.

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Dave Wrixon
 

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dwrixon said:
If you type in English they will tell how many English searches were made. Typically less than 5% of the score for the Japanese characters.

Those that still believe the Japanese search in English are still reading Superman comics.

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

so the japanese are 20X more active on the web than english speaking? or do they always conduct that many more searches?
 

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namewaiter said:
again you miss the point - is the japanese word for typhoon - typhoon?

The two Kanji symbols produced by the punycode describe what we refer to as a Typhoon. Translation tools take it there and back. The extent of the usage and context of the result confirms we are talking about the same thing. If you are asking me what it sounds like, how the hell should I know, I don't speak Japanese, Chinese, Russian, Arabic or Hindi, but it doesn't stop me speculating in domains in those languages. All that is really needed is a bit of common sense, some helpful advice, although I can assure you I have had precious little of that and some hard graft. However, it is lot easier still to come up with good results in these languages than in English. This domain is actual a real stunner, by any standards and I picked up today for $8. You show me a better way of making money.

Anyone who has got the message will stand to learn a lot more at www.IDNforums.com were there is a small group making valuable exchanges of information on this one! Its free and all, but the rock throwers are welcome! Even they are welcome, if they leave the rocks behind!

Best Regards
Dave Wrixon

namewaiter said:
so the japanese are 20X more active on the web than english speaking? or do they always conduct that many more searches?

No we use a different search tool that only give results form searches from Japan. Effectively, the normal tool only give searches from North America, it does even include Europe. We can tell what percentage of searches made from computers in Japan are in which language, and whilst there is some English it probably mainly represents the expatriate community over there.

http://inventory.jp.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/


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Dave Wrixon
 
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