3D related domain names?

[Marco]

I do think there will be a lot of rubbish registered and later disgarded but the fact that this thread has had over 520 replies and over 26000 views shows that it is probably one of the next biggest things at present in domain names IMO.

 

[shags38]

Not to burst your bubble, but your expectations are downright unrealistic. Very few names actually sell in that range.
IMO the value of these names is closer to reg fee (just like 99% of the 3D names currently floating around)

Interesting comment sdsink, backed up by south. Talking about backing up, what measure do you use to suggest that 99% of the 3D names floating around are of no or little value?? Please don't tell me you use the likes of the sites with computerised valuation, like the one that valued 3DMOVIES.COM at $3,600 - LOL, what a joke. I have tested the water with all of these sites and none of them give any credence to ANY 3D name, not just mine, I have typed in a number of others. What do you reckon 3DPORN.COM is worth? Zilch according to the valuation logarithms. It will sell for over 7 figures before the year is out, mark my words.

Nobody has a real handle on the value of 3D domain names, not even the so called experts - the market has yet to be tested. 90% plus of the websites retrieved in Google searches for 3D are INFORMATION sites (articles, press releases etc) or the TV manufacturers as well as a million blogs all prfessing to have the right angle on 3D and its future. Vey few, very few indeed are COMMERCIAL sites - these are some but not many and there are some retailers fishing with adwords but it is a bit like the phony war - it is new and there is little available content at present (billions of dollars of film in production as I speak). Somehow I don't think that the TV (and Camera and Phone and Computer) manufacturing giants and the movie moguls and TV networks have got it wrong, 3D will become an entertainment phenonemem and with that their will be billions and billions of dollars spent by consumers.

What makes a domain valuable? - it's clever quirky name, the number of letters or digits? No - the value of a domain to the owner is in its advertising power, the power to develop or strengthen a BRAND (not just for the fun of it but to drive sales) or to create sales - if it doean't create sales it is worthless. So I can only assume that the 99% of 3D domains about which you speak are domains not intended for commercial purposes, right?

1 billion searches per annum for the single search word "movies" in the U.S. April 2010 212,000 searches in the U.S. for that month for search term "3D MOVIES / MOVIES 3D" - if one was silly enough to extrapolate that number into an annual figure it would be about 2.4million. That is REDICULOUS. If only 1% of that 1billion searches was to include 3D in the search it would mean 10million searches - the fact is that most pundits are suggesting that around 15% of such searches (tvs, dvd players, movies, games etc) will include 3D within the next year or so (would = 150million) - lets assume they are way out, lets work on only 5% = 50million. These numbers are extremely conservative (there are another 1 billion searches for movies of varying combination search terms for a start).

50 million searches for 3D Movies (searching what is on at the cinema is separate) - most will be looking to buy or rent a 3D movie - lets say only 20% - 10 million. There is 10 million reasons why commercial organisations / retailers will want to buy domains that relate to those searches that will give them their share of the resultant sales - IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY, not some misguided opinions.

Again - multi billions of dollars will be spent over the next 12 months globally on 3d products - now tell me honestly, applying some considered logic and business acumen, that the names I put forward are worth closer to the registration value?? I may be new to domaining but I am certainly not new to advertising and business dealings - so what is domaining? simply buying and selling. Websites are ADVERTISERS.

MOVIES3DLATEST.COM is an excellent advertisement for a business / retailer to let consumers know that he has the latest 3d movies - just what the consumer was searching for - bingo!! seller/buyer - it isn't rocket science. I wonder how many retailers of movies might offer a few dollars more than reg fee - add in an economy that is trying to revive and you have sellers doing whatever they can to get sales

I will send you both a case of fine Australian Wines when the first big one comes through

In any case everyone is entitled to their opinion - me, I kinda like to be able to back up my opinions with some substance

Thank you for your wishes of good luck south - I figure you must be a lady domainer - well mannered.

cheers, Mike

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Agreed - this thread is a 3D garbage dump

you probably should read your own quote at the bottom of your page

then take off the blinkers

 

[katherine]

Agreed - this thread is a 3D garbage dump

The 3D thread at NP is much much worse...

Interesting comment sdsink, backed up by south. Talking about backing up, what measure do you use to suggest that 99% of the 3D names floating around are of no or little value??

Have you studied the market and reported sales ?
What kind of names actually sell in that price range ?
We all wish our names are worth 6 figures each, but that's wishful thinking, not reality.
Sticking 3D in front of <insert random long-tail domain here> just isn't recipe for success.

Please don't tell me you use the likes of the sites with computerised valuation, like the one that valued 3DMOVIES.COM at $3,600 - LOL, what a joke.

3DMOVIES.COM *might* sell in the 5-figure range, that is the range where you think your names belong.
But there are not many 3D domains that are comparable in terms of quality, especially the recent registrations.

MOVIES3DLATEST.COM is an excellent advertisement for a business / retailer to let consumers know that he has the latest 3d movies

Hmm. Just by reading it aloud, it doesn't sound that great or brandable.

The issue is not whether 3D takes off, but if it does it won't make bad names look good.
The bottom line is, a bad domain today will still be a bad domain tomorrow.

 

[bmugford]

Is Delusional3D.com taken?

Brad

 

[draggar]

Interesting comment sdsink, backed up by south. Talking about backing up, what measure do you use to suggest that 99% of the 3D names floating around are of no or little value?? Please don't tell me you use the likes of the sites with computerised valuation, like the one that valued 3DMOVIES.COM at $3,600 - LOL, what a joke. I have tested the water with all of these sites and none of them give any credence to ANY 3D name, not just mine, I have typed in a number of others. What do you reckon 3DPORN.COM is worth? Zilch according to the valuation logarithms. It will sell for over 7 figures before the year is out, mark my words.

If they're so good they must be on the DNJournal sales report each week, right?

This week? Nope, none.

Surely they'll be on the YTD list, right? They should domainate it, right?

3DTV.co.uk sold on 3/31 for $15,000 pounds (about $22,000 US).

That's the only domain on the YTD chart with "3D" in it.

As your expmples show, yes, there are some good 3D related domains out there as there will be with any new technology but the vast majority (and I'll stick with my 99.99% generalization) won't sell for huge amounts, maybe a couple hundred for brandable ones but that's it. Most will go for a few dollars or get dropped in a year. Why don't we add "3D" to our drop list keywords and see how many come up?

Pool has 241 domains with "3D" in them dropping between 6/9 (today) and 6/14.

SnapNames has between 900 and 1,000 (10 pages, 100 per page) and none of the auctions have bids.

Namejet has 606 domains listed.

TDMAN has about 350 listed.

Yes, there are duplicates and some that aren't "3D" related but still - that's a lot of domains dropping.

 

[Diabro]

Have you studied the market and reported sales ?
What kind of names actually sell in that price range ?
We all wish our names are worth 6 figures each, but that's wishful thinking, not reality.
Sticking 3D in front of <insert random long-tail domain here> just isn't recipe for success.

Dude! You are way out of line. This guy has been domaining for TWO MONTHS! You should just step back and think about how much experience he brings to the table.

Clearly many of these names are worth at least what he stated. Anyone faced with the choice of one of his domains or another randomized word string with "3D" thrown in would clearly want the one he has instead of chancing REG fee on a similar domain.

 

[JB Lions]

"MOVIES3DLATEST.COM is an excellent advertisement for a business / retailer to let consumers know that he has the latest 3d movies - just what the consumer was searching for - bingo!!"

Not really. It fails the very basic test of nobody says that phrase, movies 3d latest. Search volume on that phrase, exact match - not enough data. 3dmovies is obviously a nice name.

Now sometimes you can take something where it doesn't get a lot of search volume but it's brandable, easy to remember, makes sense and you can build a nice site around it. As an example, 3d buying guide, 3d help guide etc.

 

[Diabro]

^^^ :lol:

 

[south]

Thank you for your wishes of good luck south - I figure you must be a lady domainer - well mannered.

cheers, Mike

:blush:

You are quite welcome. And I sincerely mean it. As all the others here do. They (we) are just trying to offer unbiased opinions which will hopefully further your education on domains. Some may come across a a bit crass, but they have value nonetheless. And they're trying to save you from throwing money away.

Now. If I may further attempt to illustrate some of the points made.

Your perception appears to be a tad off.

I assure you I am a red blooded American Male. You are getting some things backwards.

You seem to be doing the same thing with (at least some) of your domain purchases.

When you register (or purchase) domains, you need to consider the actual phrase. When you are shopping for a new shirt, are you searching for a shirt new or a new shirt? Throwing a phrase in with another (3D in this case) does not automatically ensure a million dollar name. 3dmovies is an excellent name, but MOVIES3DLATEST.COM? Think about it. Would you actually search for the term? Latest 3d movies, perhaps, but it's unlikely you would reverse it. Or if you would, it might only be an afterthought to add "latest" to the term in your search.

I'm not saying *all* of your domains are bad, and out of 700, I'm sure some must have some value. Just think carefully about the actual words / phrases before registering them. Don't feel bad, everyone here has done (and occasionally still does) the same thing. Slow down a bit & do some research. Say the words, see if it is something you might actually say or search for.

I will send you both a case of fine Australian Wines when the first big one comes through

I look forward to it! My delivery address is the same as the whois of the names in my sig. I generally prefer a Trappist or Abbey brew, or maybe a nice single malt, but I've been known to enjoy a good bottle of wine from time to time.

Oh... and Sdsinc is a woman. (Listen to her, she's a smart cookie)

Cheers!
Scott

 

[shags38]

"Hmm. Just by reading it aloud, it doesn't sound that great or brandable."

Google crawlers cannot detect sound. I didn't realize a domain had to sound good when verbalised for it to be an effective selling tool - so I guess some of the very lsuccessful, very large multi nationals that have websites with names that don't exactly roll off the tongue have got it wrong. I thought the objective, for a website owner was to have a website name that matches as closely as possible to the search that a potential customer types into the google search box? I bow to the obvious wealth of marketing and advertising experience in this thread. I want to set up an e-commerce business selling 3D movies, can someone please offer a suitable domain name that aside from suitable SEO and linking will have google find my site.

"Have you studied the market and reported sales ?"

- have you? What market do you speak of - the domaining market or the real world of commerce and retail out there? The answer is yes and no - there is very little solid data available, retail sales dollar volumes, profits, etc - any available data at present would be less than useful as the products have only been in the marketplace for 4 months. Trends? the graph is vertical but that is to be expected given a zero base. The best indicator of the "market" and the expectations is the commitment of mega dollars by some of the worlds most respected companies and individuals. Read Rupert Murdochs letter to shareholders when announcing Newscorps financial results 2009. This type of "study" is relevant indicators of the market at the top end, the tail will follow. Why are prices of HDLCD televisions falling significantly? You don't have to be einstein to figure that out.

What kind of names actually sell in that price range ?

Let me guess - pretty sounding names or names that have very real commercial value?? What is very real commercial value? - in the case of MOVIES3DLATEST.COM there is no-one in this forum that has any clue as to the value of this name to any of the major retailers of movies, dvds, videos. Only those retailers will know the value to their business. If a large retailer, say 500 stores across the U.S. (that is actually a small retailer) paid 50k for that name then from the additional hits to their website (likely redirected from this name to their main site) then each store would have to realize 1k per annum additional profit for the company to achieve ROI - less than $100 per month, less than the profit from sales of an additional 20 movies per month, less than one per day. If I was managing a company turning over hundreds of millions of dollars per year in a competitive market I would certainly seriously consider a $50k "advertising"commitment in a domain that suits the searchers inquiry versus spending that money on 50 30 second commercials or 8 full page magazine advertisements. That is why some of these names will sell for 5 figures plus, because astute business managers out there do their sums, and in some cases astute domain name owners do their sums and present them as a business proposal to such business managers.

That is when you get reasonable dollars. So short answer, many, many names sell in that range, or more correctly have sold in that range. Stats from some of these selling sites and even DNJ won't show this - why? - aside from some gems being brought out of a dusty file, or names that definatively suit a niche, the rest out there are from the bottom of the heap - so what can you expect. "Recent sales - sales last year" data is useless in defining the value of domains in a "new market". Even in the new 3D market many of the super duper waterfont properties will have been sought by buyers directly with the registrants and such purchases being private are not available to DNJ - unless the seller blabs.

Let me throw the question back at you - how many names in other market sectors have sold for 5 plus figures? If you know then it appears the second coming has arrived. Forget any of "my" names - there are hundreds of 3D names that will sell in 5 figures - simply because the market is / will be so enormous - again it all revolves around the mighty dollar.

We all wish our names are worth 6 figures each, but that's wishful thinking, not reality.

True - but let the market out there, the business managers trying to make money, gain market share and beat off their competitors decide what real "value" is to their business - not what we may think. I would really implore you to sit back and look at numbers, they are mind boggling - use the yellow pages as a guide to the number of variations of a key word for a business to attract customers - research the sales volume in dollars of movies (dvds, videos) sold in the U.S. last year as an example seeing as we are using that name as an example - same applies to other 3D products.

Sticking 3D in front of <insert random long-tail domain here> just isn't recipe for success.

Certainly not - research is though - "home theater systems" as an exact search inquiry retrieves 1,080,000 searches p.a. in the U.S. (the singular retrieves 350k) - In a years time how many people will be searching for a home theater system without adding in 3D in the search criteria?? So hometheatersystems3d.com (20 characters) will be of some real value to a business selling home theater systems - the operating profit from the sale of a 3D home theater system would average around $750 ($5000 x 15%) - at conservatively 300k searches definitively inclusive of 3D if as a retailer I paid $15000 for that domain name and appeared on page 1 of google (obviously it goes without saying that quality SEO is required to rank) and I get say 5% of those inquiries as hits = 15000 then all I have to do is convert 20 (twenty) of those hits (0.0013%) into sales and I have recovered my investment.

As an astute business person I would SERIOUSLY consider an investment of that amount for a very long domain name. Having such a name registered and waiting for a buyer to contact you or putting it in sedo or any other sales site would be an absolute waste of time and money. It must be actively marketed to prospective buyers, that is where the research and the hard part of the selling of a useful domain starts.

Even astute business people do not wake up in the morning and say "I think I will look for some available domains for my business today" (if so where do they look?? - you know but do they?) - if you have a product to sell then you must let the real potential customers know you have it, someone has to turn the light on, or you will grow grey and old waiting for that knock on the door.

Short answer - long names will work if they are known to be searchable.

"MOVIES3DLATEST.COM is an excellent advertisement for a business / retailer to let consumers know that he has the latest 3d movies - just what the consumer was searching for - bingo!!"

Not really. It fails the very basic test of nobody says that phrase, movies 3d latest. Search volume on that phrase, exact match - not enough data. 3dmovies is obviously a nice name.

Does it matter whether people say that phrase ?? Is that the basic test of the worth of a website name, how it sounds?? I was under the dillusion that what matters is typing that phrase into a google search box, you know, that person sitting there at their computer, that dumbass potential buyer of a product, the one that makes money for a business, like you and me, typing in what they are actually looking for. (IKEA - strange sounding name, wish I owned it). Did you really expect that there be any data for that phrase with 3D televisions only being in "some" stores for only 3-4 months tops?? (many stores are struggling to get stock!!). And yet again the term used by a few in here "nice name" - nice names do not make money - "effective" names do, effective means it creates money for the user of that name as a website or as a signpost directing to another website(porn is not a very nice name at all, in fact it is offensive to many, but it sure is effective and worth gazillions). For search data potential for that phrase try removing the blinkers - movies retrieves 1 billion per annum in the U.S. - you do your own sums as to what numbers may be there under that exact phrase search in a years time

If they're so good they must be on the DNJournal sales report each week, right?

This week? Nope, none.

Surely they'll be on the YTD list, right? They should domainate it, right?

3DTV.co.uk sold on 3/31 for $15,000 pounds (about $22,000 US).

That's the only domain on the YTD chart with "3D" in it.

Reading some of the previous responses should suffice as a response to your blinkered observations. As for 3DTV.CO.UK selling for 22k in my opinion (which apparently is like my domain names and my enthusiasm for the potential of 3D names, not worth much) the person who sold that domain was very astute in obtaining or registering the name however is not really an astute business person, imo. That name would be worth much more than that "to the right company". Having said that, do the maths, the population of the UK is 70mil, the u.s. is 310mil or a factor of 4.4, 22k x 4.4 = 97k. This ratio is valid by way of number of consumers, other factors obviously come into play. Very close to 6 figures right? And again IMO it is very much undervalued. What would Ted Turner, Rupert Murdoch and other media network moguls pay for 3DTV.COM ???
Do you know who purchased that domain - if so that could possibly be an indicator of its real or future value - was it another domainer, a marketing company, a television network, a satellite tv company? - was it purchased for resale?? if so keep an eye on the next sale

In essence I am not particularly concerned about what prices others may be getting - there are far, far too many factors involved in what determined the selling price, most of which even DNJ and others are not privy to. Based on the above, the current owner of 3DTV.COM, if he/she was to use that sale as a value indicator would be looking at about $100k for his/her name. I do not have $100k but if offered that domain at that price I would beg, steal or borrow the money to buy it and treble my investment within months.

I haven't bothered looking at the sites you mentioned, mainly because I am yet to enter the aftermarket phase, but will have a look, I might see something "effective".

Parting comment - I have listed about 300 of my domains for sale on a few sites, not that I expect them to sell mainly because the majority of visitors to those sites are domainers anyway (what percentage of the professed 35million domains on afternic actually have bids against them??). Why did I list them then - simple - when I send letters of offer to prospective customers I can subtly indicate that the domain(s) is/are currently listed for $x on such and such a site, by far the greater majority will assume that the listed price is a reasonable market price and will negotiate down from that price - silly me, who am I to suggest how to sell effectively, I am but a novice domainer.

Dude! You are way out of line. This guy has been domaining for TWO MONTHS! You should just step back and think about how much experience he brings to the table.

and for you Diabro - sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, however if you wish to have a sarcasm duel then I am your man On a serious note - you are obviously an experienced domainer so I wondered if you might assist a novice like me.

What is a domainer? Is there a training manual? How many domains do you have to have to be a real domainer? How many sales do you have to have under your belt? Do you have to have reached a certain single sales value for a domain to be regarded as a successful domainer? Does a succesful domainer have to serve an apprenticeship, if so how long? Does a successful domainer need to have experience in business, marketing or selling to be successful or just have an eye for a nice name?

I really want to learn. I have been under the dillusion that having a degree in Marketing and having had 25 years experience in sales and marketing globally having conducted business in 23 countries, having an analytical mind, a reasonable command of the English language (except when I type too fast), having excellent written and verbal negotiation acumen, being forward thinking, being an opportunist, and an all round nice guy that I may have had basis for making a success of recognising, marketing and selling effective domain names.

The books I have read seem not to have the wealth of experience and knowledge that you obviously have in successful sales and marketing (of anything). So please offer me some of your valuable guidance.

Thanks, Mike

 

[JB Lions]

Eh, nevermind

 

[bmugford]

Let me guess - pretty sounding names or names that have very real commercial value?? What is very real commercial value? - in the case of MOVIES3DLATEST.COM there is no-one in this forum that has any clue as to the value of this name to any of the major retailers of movies, dvds, videos. Only those retailers will know the value to their business. If a large retailer, say 500 stores across the U.S. (that is actually a small retailer) paid 50k for that name then from the additional hits to their website (likely redirected from this name to their main site) then each store would have to realize 1k per annum additional profit for the company to achieve ROI - less than $100 per month, less than the profit from sales of an additional 20 movies per month, less than one per day. If I was managing a company turning over hundreds of millions of dollars per year in a competitive market I would certainly seriously consider a $50k "advertising"commitment in a domain that suits the searchers inquiry versus spending that money on 50 30 second commercials or 8 full page magazine advertisements. That is why some of these names will sell for 5 figures plus, because astute business managers out there do their sums, and in some cases astute domain name owners do their sums and present them as a business proposal to such business managers.

You honestly think the domain MOVIES3DLATEST.COM is a gem?

Here is what is wrong with it -

1.) The term makes no sense in that order.
2.) There is 0 search volume (Broad, Phrase, or Exact)
3.) There are a whopping 5 exact Google results.

Even if you take out the term "3D" even MoviesLatest.com is not a good domain.

I suggest you learn more about domains before flushing your money down the 3dToilet.

Brad

 

[MAllie]

I really want to learn. I have been under the dillusion that having a degree in Marketing and having had 25 years experience in sales and marketing globally having conducted business in 23 countries, having an analytical mind, a reasonable command of the English language (except when I type too fast), having excellent written and verbal negotiation acumen, being forward thinking, being an opportunist, and an all round nice guy that I may have had basis for making a success of recognising, marketing and selling effective domain names.

The books I have read seem not to have the wealth of experience and knowledge that you obviously have in successful sales and marketing (of anything). So please offer me some of your valuable guidance.

Mike, I would like to make some comments here. Upon reading your long post that includes the above, I had a suspicion, and then you confirmed it with your remark about the speed of your typing. I, too, type very fast (90wpm +), but something I've only recently realised while engaging in text chats with others is that it might take them all day to type two words. This means that while I might be happy to type something like: movies, 3d, latest into a search engine, as if I were using an index, others simply don't have the time. They want the result of their search immediately, and so they put in something like 3d movie - or even 3d move (when they will be kindly asked by Google, Do you mean 3d movie?). So any phrase that requires the application of the English language as we have known it for several decades before the arrival of the Internet simply won't do for keyword searching.

You say that you really want to learn, but your long missive doesn't suggest this. It does suggest the hurt feelings of someone who thought he was on the right track only to find he is a little lost. These feelings are only natural when beginning to study anything. There may be advice offered here in a sarcastic way, but this too can be caused by frustration at having hard-won experience spurned. I am 63 now, so I can speak honestly to you: the 'valuable guidance' you seek may not come on this forum nicely wrapped and with a bow around it, but it is usually very carefully chosen just the same. Time and again I've seen members admit that they have been where you are, and offer genuine help.

I don't think it is an illusion or delusion that a degree in Marketing is useful in domaining (although I believe you would be dazzled by the degrees of some of the people on here, which I am sure have contributed to their success). But it seems to me that Marketing for the Internet is of a very specific kind. Your 'analytical mind' also, while of obvious use in any field, will have to be honed to the domaining business before you can count on it as a useful tool, either.

Anyway, these are just a few things I wanted to say to you. I am still very much a newbie myself, and reading the forum daily is one way I am learning (slowly). I have made plenty of mistakes in these early days, but the fact that I can now recognise them as such seems to me a step forward. May I add my best wishes to those of others?

Monica

 

[Honan]

What is the chance there will be a new gTLD ( generic Top Level Domain ) of .3D in 2011 or later?

 

[Vijaya]

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSSGE65900G20100610
With 3D movies boosting both audience experiences and box office coffers, videogame publishers are following Hollywood's lead and developing 3D games to immerse players more into virtual worlds......

Regards

 

[shags38]

You honestly think the domain MOVIES3DLATEST.COM is a gem?

Here is what is wrong with it -

1.) The term makes no sense in that order.
2.) There is 0 search volume (Broad, Phrase, or Exact)
3.) There are a whopping 5 exact Google results.

Even if you take out the term "3D" even MoviesLatest.com is not a good domain.

I suggest you learn more about domains before flushing your money down the 3dToilet.

Brad

No Brad I do not think it is a gem at all - another misinterpretation - go through the thread, someone else assigned that comment to the name. What I am saying is it is not worthless like some in here have suggested. The order doesnt have to make sense per say - google will return the movies3d part of the name first and foremost which is the aim of the exercise - if you are searching for 3d movies and on page 1 or 2 of the search results you see movies 3d latest would you not click on it? I sell movies for a living and want to cash in on the 3d euphoria - not just for today but for the much longer term, I can't get 3dmovies or movies3d, movies3dlatest is available as is 3dmovieslatest - I figure it satisfies what the searcher is looking for, gives me 3dmovies content in the name for good crawler recognition and with good SEO I should be able to get onto the first couple of pages. I already have a movies website which does very well but I want to drive some of the 3d movies specific traffic to my existing site - I can use some pages from my existing site as landing pages (then redirect) hence giving me good SEO and I can incorporate all the inbound links from my current site, the combination of which with some minor tweaking will get sufficient ranking to be on at least page 2 if not page 1 for that search (which will be in the vicinity of 100mil per year). I figure that will increase my hits sufficiently to warrant purchasing the domain, no doubt my webmaster can sort out the details.

But then again in doing some research I found there is no data for searches for that specific phrase for that domain and 3d movies / movies 3d only shows 165k a month and movies latest only shows 135k - on second thoughts I won't buy that domain because current data doesn't support that it is worth anything at all.

cheers, Mike

 

[draggar]

"Hmm. Just by reading it aloud, it doesn't sound that great or brandable."

Google crawlers cannot detect sound.

(snip)

Does it matter whether people say that phrase ?? Is that the basic test of the worth of a website name, how it sounds??

Yes, in a very big way. No, Google doesn't notice the "sound" but people type and search the same (or very similar) how they talk. People are going to look for and type in "latest 3d movies" not "movies 3d latest" (unless you're Yoda). People who type / write like people talk have an adge with SEO. When the average user is searching for something they don't know about keywords, they know what they want.

Considering your domain that keeps coming up here, would your domain or the opposite (latest 3d movies) complete these sentences?

"Where can I rent the ..."
"Where can I watch the ..."
"Where can I buy the ..."
"What theater is showing the ..."

Also, according to search engines, "latest 3d movies" is not the same as "movies 3d latest".

You're talkinmg to a person who made the same exact mistake - I had a domain that I thought was great for a dating site ( location - adjective - singles .com (no hyphens)). But I learned that even though i thought I could sell it for a couple hundred, I learned it was junk because (adjective - location - singles.com) would have been far better and I could have easily had gotten high $xxx for the better domain as opposed ot maybe $15 for the one I registered.

Listen to the people here - some of them have far more experience than you do and I'd hate to see someone else waste hundreds or thousands of dollars in reg fees for domans that jsut end up being dropped 1-2 years later (like many of us here have).

that person sitting there at their computer, that dumbass potential buyer of a product, the one that makes money for a business, like you and me, typing in what they are actually looking for.

Nice way to look at people who use the internet (and people who shop on the internet).

 

[shags38]

You may not be able to see the white flag but it is waving I will pull my head in, get off my high horse and pick up the rattle I threw out of the pram (stroller) .

I will now just read with interest and try to learn. Maybe from time to time I will throw up a few names I have from time to time just for the heck of it like these (hopefully there is something decent amongst them.

I am still awaiting an opinion on bookend domains

blurayplayers3d.com
dvdburner3d.com
gamestv3d.com
glasses3dactive.com
glasses3dmovie.com
3dgogglesonline.com
3dincar.com (and plural)
3dincarsystems.com (and plural)
3dlaptops3d.com
3dcomputers3d.com
3dneoplasma.com
neoplasma3d.com (neoplasma is not trademarked)

Good night all from Oz

 

[katherine]

No Brad I do not think it is a gem at all - another misinterpretation - go through the thread, someone else assigned that comment to the name. What I am saying is it is not worthless like some in here have suggested.

Your names are definitely not in the mid 5-figure range.
I would dare say worthless or quasi-worthless, because reg fee pretty much means the same.
Do you really believe domaining is that easy ? Pick some available domain and flip it a few weeks later for big bucks ?
Sorry, domaining is tough.

Instead you should ask yourself why they were available to register if they're so good (especially with all the newbies currently going after just about any 3D domain).
You said you want to learn. Then assume you know nothing. And read. Read. Breathe the combined knowledge of DNFers and take the time to ride that learning curve.
But dont expect us to tell you what you wanna hear.
Not trying to put you down, cause I don't think I have so many domains that are truly worth millions.
I'm only being realistic here.

The order doesnt have to make sense per say - google will return the movies3d part of the name first and foremost which is the aim of the exercise

That means the name is only good for SEO, it's not memorable or brandable.
You still have to develop and do SEO, the name itself will do nothing for you, even with the 'right' keywords. The same result could be achieved with quite many alternative domains, hence your name doesn't really have built-in value.

 

[Namefox]

Yes, there are some people grabbing crappy 3D domains that make no grammatical sense. With that said, I like the market. Lots of big players spending big money on development in electronics, cinema, movies and other area. I am glad I got 3Dtelevisions dot ca. I think it a great investment.