A basic SEO "crash course"?

[dmyre]

...I constantly put BLANK PAGES on page 1 of google for high cpc words...and most are new reg's...

Would you mind sharing some URL's you got listed on page?

 

[adonivideo]

everything everyone said IS WRONG

if all that crap was true, then why can a blank page on a new reg for a high value cpc term hit page 1

content means NOTHING

what I said is gospel

KEYWORDs rule

now, if you're a putz like frank schilling the king of domains, you contaminate a golden keyword with crap se's ignore

so crap content will sink a keyword

links can sink a keyword

you got a high value cpc term, it's better to let it be empty and set the ground work to get it high

then when you have a client for it, fill it up

or you better have great content on a keyword or all the crap they're saying to do will kill it

so my advice is

focus on keywords

then proper use will keep it high

a keyword with NO CONTENT has a higher SEO value to google than all this crap people doing now to keywords

you ever read that before

so everyone is telling him this and that

I said ONE THING

get the keyword

even if it's BLANK, that alone can pop google

now if you think that's not help, W.e

I'm a real SEO GOD and I gave the only advice worth anything in this thread

all this content crap spewed by people that don't do seo is garbage

so that''s my advice

DO NOT LISTEN TO THEM

advice 2

GET THE KEYWORD YOU WANT

so what part of that didn't you understand

now I know what a real expert on SEO wakes up the people that THINK they know a little and says look

U KNOW NOTHING

wow

yeah, if you can do what I said, POP A BLANK PAGE TO PAGE ONE ON GOOGLE for a high value cpc term

you know

wow another SEO GOD is in the house and he's saying SHUT UP on topics YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT

so I gave the right info

YOU KNOW NOTHING

all this content crap is crap

and do ONE THING

get a keyword

best SEO advice ever given on this forum

And yeah, I make a fortune doing SEO

and all I say to clients is the same thing

KEYWORD

you get a keyword then I pop it

you can't afford the keyword

you can't afford me

KEYWORDS rule SEO

then comes other things

and 'content'

only one type of content matters now to google

and I'm not explaining it here

and it's not as important as KEYWORD MATCH

---------- Post added at 06:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:33 PM ----------

Would you mind sharing some URL's you got listed on page?

hmmm

too many to list

and you can't hire me to do SEO

I'm not taking on new clients

I do one type of SEO now

I make a portal and pop geos on a keyword

then my telemarketers call owners of businesses on that keyword and say

oh, page one is ready

you want it

so I SELL PRE BUILT SEO COMPLETE SITES

you ever heard of such a thing?

that's the power of a keyword

so someone tries to 'hire me' I say NO

I develop what I own and what I own are keywords and I pop high value cpc and then ONLY rent to end users

so I do my own type of seo development

and yeah, I have plenty on page one

and it's insignificant to this thread

and if the kid that started it wants PROOF

he can pm me

then I show him alone PROOF

the rest don't need to see proof

because I'm not for hire

I SELL MY SEO WORK AFTER IT POPS or rather rent

and I got more empty pages on page 1 google than you can imagine

 

[stock_post]

Google recently released an updated SEO Starter Guide.

http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2010/09/seo-starter-guide-updated.html

Also, feel free to check out realestatewebmasters[.]com for some extra guidance...

Real estate webmasters is kind of junk - I have worst experience with that ass*hole

 

[adonivideo]

best advice ever given on SEO

KEYWORD

it is more important than content

end of subject move on

---------- Post added at 07:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:02 PM ----------

Real estate webmasters is kind of junk - I have worst experience with that ass*hole

how about this for a new take on SEO

instead of guys calling a business saying give us X and in Y months you will be page 1 for whatever

a company says

you want page one for keyword in your GEO

the person says yeah

ok, it's already built

already has content

already indexed

your phone number and email can be on the site in 10 minutes

it's X dollars a month

that's the only thing I do now

create stuff I know owners pay rentals for

you know SEO you can put whatever you want on page one

I only put now what I own on page one and then I charge a large monthly to the users that can benefit

that's my niche

and I do it all with KEYWORDS

so anyone selling RE seo, should already have the cities he wants DONE

then he can call the realtors in that town and say you want this, it's X dollars a month

and if he's good he can pop it with a map

and if he's really good he can convince the owner to put wholesale ppc on it since the keyword url makes the QS score amazing

again it all comes down to ONE THING

you have a keyword, the SEO is easy

you do what all these paper say and create useless content

it gets dropped

anyway, RE is a very competitive market

like law, insurance and medical

yet, you get a keyword you can pop it and even NO CONTENT can pop it

just be careful following all the content advice

keyword score has always and will always be #1 value in any search algorithm

END OF SUBJECT

the guys that own and develop the high cpc terms control serp's

you put java content junk on a strong keyword, it disappears like every one of frank schillings keywords

he knows keywords and type ins, but the king of domains killed every one of his keywords with java scripted garbage content

anyway, never heard of that RE dude

but if he was good, he would have no problem hitting page one and then finding lead hungry brokers paying nice cpc for geo keywords

geo homes
geo homes for sale
geo real estate

all money in the bank cpc terms

so since this started as question on seo for a RE term

acquire the keyword

do not use BS content

it will pop

and yeah, you need a few things, but the main thing is KEYWORD

you get keyword, you can land int on page one

you do java content and php content and other on the fly stuff, SE's choke on it most of the time

so what you do should be simple easy for bots to read hand coded html

you put what google wants on the site if you want google serp's

you put what yahoo wants if you want yahoo serp's

they both have keywords as primary score

then each looks for different content

you want google eyeballs you do one type of content

you want yahoo you do what yahoo wants as priority

each one scores content way different now

links

get in dmoz and yahoo and do the maps for local

use very few other 'link' deals

they're all bs

if you find a relevant page and can trade an anchor link on home page with the webmaster

do it

social media

nothing is that important

yet one type of hot content is all google looks for now

you got it

they bless you

 

[Tia Wood]

Actually, Adoni....what you say about being able to get a blank page for a keyword domain to the top of Google is correct. I've done it hundreds of times.

But if that's your example of "SEO God-like abilities"......the SIMPLEST, most elementary form of SEO......I need to know what type of crack you are smoking.

People who are going to want to rent your names with good SEO position are not going to want a blank page. They want a developed site. Getting there is one thing. Keeping it is another.

What's more impressive is having a keyword or brandable domain and claiming a top search spot for a related keyword set(s) that isn't in the domain.

Your examples....though they have a little truth to them...are very basic.

 

[grcorp]

hello @ grcorp

to answer your question about 'citations'
=================================

Getting listed with Google Maps, helps small businesses in making them known to prospective customers, that are on the lookout for specific type of businesses located within a specific geographical location.

To gain an edge on this, you need citations or reviews that makes your Google Listings stickier.

A citation is where your business name and address are mentioned (or cited) on another website. Citations don’t necessarily have links leading back to a website since many business owners don’t have website(s). Google crawls content across the web and anywhere they find a citation on your business they give you a point. A citation is a mention of your business name, address, & phone number.
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Now, going back to conventional SEO re: www.citydreamhomes.com

here' some few facts that I've gathered when going through the site ( using my own know-how in SEO and some help from Market Samurai)

* they are ranked no#1 for the keywords "Toronto Homes"
* Domain is very old and have thousands of backlinks pointed to their site
* ...you're up against a 180-POUND GORILLA

(BUT, the fact that they're ranked #1 doesn't mean that they're doing everything right. They just haven't found a competition yet that would take as much action as these guys have... reviewing their backlinks, looks like these guys have done lots of SEO using Web 2.0 marketing)

Add to that, here's what I also found out.... that they're NOT doing:

* Making the most of their website ( no 'above fold' incentive' or directive to join their list - they're not really capturing leads effectively)
* From where I am looking at ( as Google has many servers, what may be no#1 from where I am based, maybe #3 to you),
they're NOT even in the top 7 in Google maps
* although they've worked on their site's title, they haven't done really a good job for on-page optimization
* and for the more obvious, the keywords the site is targeting, isn't in the domain name itself...

the "NOTs" are the ones you can use to outrank this site or ranked close to it as possible and gather the leads it fails to capture
(perhaps designing your site to the likes of this one can help: http://realestatemoneymall.com/become-informed/

Also, I see a dot .ca targeting the same keyword ranked only @ position #6 (re: http-//propertysold.ca) , the fact that it has more backlinks than site @ spot #1 (re: www.citydreamhomes.com).

This comes back to my earlier point.....you'd be leaning your ladder against the wrong wall if you started with a dot .ca domain for a conventional SEO but not really much of a concern to rank in Google maps, because as explained earlier, you can even rank without a website.

For conventional SEO therefore, I would start with a dot .com , .dot .net or dot. org domain that bears the keywords I am targeting "Toronto Homes" .....buy hey, that's just me....all of these is simply my opinion...

Really appreciate the thorough answer!

Yes, I do agree that citydreamhomes.com is a 180 pound gorilla (I'm a 150 pound Jew... I think I stand a fighting chance ).

For the record, the name that I am in the process of acquiring (update... entered into contract to purchase just yesterday) is actually older than citydreamhomes.com by nearly a year.

As for backlinks, they will definitely take time, effort, blood, sweat and tears to acquire and let mature. I know that's what needs the most work.

(I also need to stop mentioning these people in my posts - I just keep giving them more and more backlinks :lol

In terms of what they're not doing...

When I develop the name, there will be much on-page optimization, including a sitemap, keywords in the header, strategically developed meta tags, alt tags on all the images, as well as a semi-aggressive opt-in form.

I don't want to be too aggressive in terms of capturing a visitor's email, phone number, name, etc. - people are becoming more privacy conscious and I feel it isn't right to require them to give me their contact info just so they can search for a house.

Now, if you try to search for a house on citydreamhomes.com - note that after clicking on "Start Search" you're not only required to give your phone number and email address, but to also agree to their privacy policy as well. Too much. Wouldn't want to do that to prospective clients. It would make them feel uncomfortable.

The "realestatemoneymall.com" site is a little busy for my taste. I like something a little more streamlined. The one I showed you (citydreamhomes.com) was a great example. A nearly-perfect example would be www.gethomes.ca. Doesn't appear to be perfectly optimized, but it's clean, straight to the point, and an optional email field could do wonders for capturing leads.

Now, here's one you should also have a look at... www.torontogreathomes.com. Another very busy layout, but for some reason, is ranking right up there on Google!

Here's another strange one... www.gtahomesearch.ca. Based almost entirely on flash, it's coming up as #2 for me for a search for "Toronto Homes".

Now, I'm not an expert, but www.propertysold.ca looks horribly optimized. That could be why it's inferior to www.citydreamhomes.com.

Having done further research on www.citydreamhomes.com, they appear to be adding unique content all the time on their blog, which does not align with Adonivideo's statements at all.

That being said, sitemarker, do you think their unique articles are what it is that's pulling them to the top?

 

[adonivideo]

What's more impressive is having a keyword or brandable domain and claiming a top search spot for a related keyword set(s) that isn't in the domain.

Yawn, I have a ton of PAYING CLIENTS and only a moron would put a development project on page 1 without the control of the keyword, the reason 'genius' a keyword developer like me can come and remove you in a few days, so you know nothing about SEO, you have no residual income from keyword development and you are clueless as your dumb comment above shows. So you want to waste time SEO'ing a major money keyword without the keyword? Why, it won't stick, it will be removed by keyword development for any high cpc term.

Any serious SEO development should ONLY be done on a keyword, people like you call my seo company all the time, WE LAUGH AT YOU, so you have nothingworthregging.com and you want it to be on top of ebay for auctions, and your budget is 100 a month right.

Stop making stupid comment, I will nail you on any stupid stuff you spew in regards to my posts, you know nothing about major seo, that's why you made the moronic remark above.

Yeah invest your time, energy and money in seo work for irrelevant terms, impress yourself, when you try to sell it, it will be GONE

I don't rent out blank pages, I rent complete turnkey packages only to clients that spend on average 10 to 40 bucks for major business cpc terms

SILENCE

 

[Tia Wood]

All of your sites look the same.

Most of your sites have no ranking or traffic.

Your videos are nothing more than moving fading in/out pictures.

Your meta keywords are way too broad.

Most of the sites you use contain a brandable+keyword.com - so you don't seem to follow your own rules of obtaining only keyword domains.

By the way, your contact form doesn't work.

Half your links are dead ends.

Your own sites are evident enough that you don't understand even the basics of SEO.

Make sure you know what you are talking about next time you try to educate the masses on SEO and act like a dick to DNF members.

SILENCE

Silence yourself. I am not the one sitting here claiming to be the "SEO God" and calling everyone morons, saying "listen to me only!". You assume so much about me it's laughable. I don't know what it is you are trying to pull at DNF but obviously you have too much time on your hands with your storybook long posts. Hmmm. I wonder why.

 

[adonivideo]

Yes, I do agree that citydreamhomes.com is a 180 pound gorilla (I'm a 150 pound Jew... I think I stand a fighting chance ). For the record, the name that I am in the process of acquiring (update... entered into contract to purchase just yesterday) is actually older than citydreamhomes.com by nearly a year. As for backlinks, they will definitely take time, effort, blood, sweat and tears to acquire and let mature. I know that's what needs the most work.

OK we have a new real(tor) in Toronto wanting leads

Congrats, got my license over 30 years ago while only 17, had to wait until 18 to be able to use it, I sold a big network development project pre-pc days to the largest broker in a major city in the USA, built the first MLM using old world tech. This is mid to later 1970's

So I had a very successful company at 15 doing custom work on mini's, going up against guys like MS in my own markets, you do know that's what Gates and crew started as a mini software custom development team while they were in college, I was doing it in high school

Anyway, RE great industry, at 18 I was #1 salesperson for that broker that talked me into getting licensed, gave it up in a year, saw the real money was in BUYING the homes and renting them, so as a licensed realtor I had to disclose HEY I'M A PRO and anyone could come back in 7 years and say I had UNFAIR ADVANTAGE being licensed.

That all being said

You want leads in Toronto for Homes related terms

Get the best names you can in toronto using .ca for

geo homes for sale
geo homes
geo real estate

hyphens ok for SEO

you don't need backlinks

you don't need a ton of content

you need KEYWORD STRENGTH on a .ca domain

.ca is residence required CCtld

so get your .ca if available and hyphens are ok

if not

then get the next best thing

.com/.net and the list gets lower for keyword strenght

now if you want to use a subdomain

fine the owners of homes.ca or homesforale.ca

get a long term LEASE on using toronto as the subdomain

put notices all over the net

YO I HAVE a 20 YEAR LEASE ON toronto.keyword.ca

now you do minor development

Google invest 5 billion in what company recently?

BIG CLUE

so if you want props with google you better join that free company and put content about toronto RE on that google property

then you splash it on your front door

GOOGLE WILL BLESS YOU

stop listening to BAD ADVICE here

do you need back links

NO

do you need a ton of content

NO

what do you need

control of a strong keyword for your geo and the top keyewords

real estate
homes for sale
homes

now you do rentals

add rentals

you do condos

add condos

the RE market revolves around the big three above

you're another 'realtor' in a big market

you want to stay on page one, develop keyword relevant domains wth what google now owns

and IGNORE everyone else that said one think here about back links and endless content dribble etc

you put what google wants on a keyword site and YOU BUY PPC and you do maps

before you know it, you have a wholesale ppc relationship with google, since you are promoting a property THEY OWN with your sites, you are on maps and you will get organic

then you find out 60% of leads comes from maps, 30% from ppc and maybe 10% from organic

in any city now what do you see when you say GEO homes for sale

top 3 ppc bidders
top map players

the organic is very minor now

so to you, map and wholesale ppc is what you need

as soon as people scrawl a page forget it, they're 'lookers' and tire kickers

the first view action is GOLDEN leads

you want to do deals DO WHAT I SAY

you want to think people won't send an email, ok, most don't they CALL

so you want people in toronto calling you due to having what NO OTHER REALTOR IN TORONTO HAS

you make the hottest content and yeah, google owns the distribution channel for it

anyone have a CLUE what it is

LOL

then when someone hits your site from cheap ppc or maps (90% of the clicks) they say, WOW look at this guy PROFESSIONAL

they call 5 to 1 and the other person emails

I'm looking for this range in Toronto, can you help me I liked your web site

I make the phone RING for a living

And when I take on a client IT IS PRE DONE

I'm there on page 1 for their keyword

Then my pitch is simple

I will pop your map to my page 1 organic (easy to do I'm page 1 organic so a map link pops it)

I will get you ppc at 50% less than you can buy it

I want

25% for ppc management
I get X for maps
I get y for my organic and my IP work that makes the phone ring

I get one month in advance

You don't like it, don't pay, u get removed

But you will like it and google and I are now PARTNERS WITH YOU

That's my pitch

I'm not looking for any work in toronto

I develop only top 10 US cities now a few minor cities and a few international citeis

I own a bunch of toronto keywords, when I develop it, then my telemarketers will be calling any category we do

And yeah I DO REAL ESTATE

So by then you will have invested time, energy and money into what you are thinking about

you probably won't get no where near page 1

You're not a seo pro, I am

When I come to tornonto I will hit page 1 for realtor terms with hot content

I will have a major GEO for toronto too

I will own every major cpc term with torononto in it

I will be page one

Then we rent out the space

Realtor in toronto

You will pay google almost 5K to be high on top left for the keywords, ignore the 100 buck a day budget

it's wrong

my work will get you what you can do for 5K for around 2500 to 3K

I get 25%

I get 1K for the map

I get 1K for my content on organic that will be page 1 when we call a toronto realtor

So 3K about to me and 3K to google

I'll be dealing with ONE LUCKY REALTOR in toronto and their PHONE WILL RING ALL DAY

I'm not pitching you a job, you can't hire me

When my telemarketers will be calling toronto realtors for leads it will be BROKERS on page 2, you just got a license to sell, and IF toronto is like USA you won't qualify to be a broker for a long time

so my company will NEVER CALL YOU

they will call a small amount of brokers on page 2 to page 3

they will say hey check out our broker in this city in USA

ask him how we did

you see page 1 serp's

you see #? for organic

click it

you like that page

yeah WE OWN IT

ten minutes your number is on it

tomorrow you will be page 1 maps too

in an hour we can have you ppc for 50% of what you buy it

now if you were a broker you would be like wow, 6K I can pretty much dominate toronto for my terms...

how much you want now

3K?

let me call your references, they check out, deal

I check out

so I sell this type of thing ALL DAY

insurance development and a few big city projects have my team all tied up

but yeah, we're coming to toronto

unless google or yahoo buys me first

LOL

that all being said

follow my advice

you could land page 1, but since you are not a pro, you have many obstacles

it's very unlikely a novice seo and developer can hit a top city like toronto for a big ppc term

right now cpc is cheap for toronto ppc

in a year it should move 3 to 5 times

LA is 3 times the cpc for realtor terms

Houston is 5 times the cpc for realtor terms

right now toronto cpc on that term is cheap

in a year or two it will be way more

take my advice

INVEST IN QUALITY TORONTO KEYWORDS FOR RE

age doesn't matter
nothing matters

#1 thing every SE looks for is keyword relevancy

end of subject

now a realtor in toronto will eventually pay me 3K range fro what I said and yeah google gets 3K

the alternative, pay google 5K and have lousy maps and no organic and content that won't get calls

now multiply 3000 by 100 cities

that's what a top level real estate .com can make

3M a year

anybody here own homes.com or homesforsale.com or realestate.com or .net or .org

or hyphens

those are the types of domains you need to come into toronto under subdomain development for real estate

I'm coming in with exact match domains

geokeyword

also on a great toronto geo

my major terms for RE is us oriented so for toronto I own exact match geokeywords

anyway, yeah, do what I say you maybe can get to page 1

do what the others say NO CHANCE

too bad they don't want you posting examples of SEO here

I've been warned

so NO DIRECT LINKS to work

that's why I don't post links

too easy to show how much I know compared to what the rest here think they know

KEYWORDS end of subject

 

[sitemarker]

That being said, sitemarker, do you think their unique articles are what it is that's pulling them to the top?

I appreciate it @ grcorp

I'll be honest with you....content per se ( unique or not) , has nothing to do with a site's ranking. ( in a way, this is in alignment with what adonivideo is saying)

I will give you a more detailed explanation and will do a research on the other websites you've mentioned. Meanwhile, 'need to hit the sack as it's way past my bedtime ( 4:00 am here)

See u in 24-48 hours

cheers,
sitemarker

 

[adonivideo]

<i>
All of your sites look the same.

Hmm you looked all 10K or so huh? SILENCE

Most of your sites have no ranking or traffic.

Wrong, most have PR and most are in Alexa

Your videos are nothing more than moving fading in/out pictures.

Wrong

Your meta keywords are way too broad.

Most of the sites you use contain a brandable+keyword.com - so you don't seem to follow your own rules of obtaining only keyword domains.

By the way, your contact form doesn't work.

Half your links are dead ends.
</i>

All of your sites look the same.

Most of your sites have no ranking or traffic.

Your videos are nothing more than moving fading in/out pictures.

Your meta keywords are way too broad.

Wrong


Most of the sites you use contain a brandable+keyword.com - so you don't seem to follow your own rules of obtaining only keyword domains.

By the way, your contact form doesn't work.

Wrong, send url or POST LINK please

LOL

Half your links are dead ends.

Wrong, now on the AV site, there's a ton of keywords we're indexing on purpose WITH BLANK PAGES, so a blank page is not a dead link

Again, you know NOTHING about SEO

So you're looking at ADONI sites

LOL

Yep, ADONI is one of my 'brands' my names

So adoni this and that is on sites I don't even use to trade under

My main sites use a major SEO term

Let's see what does everyone want that wants SEO?

THAT IS ME

I own that term

LOL

And yeah, we're NOT FOR HIRE anymore, the reason, all our development is on in house portals we own and that our clients are on

And I hit huge cpc terms all the time for clients

So stop tallking about stuff you don't know one thing about

ANYONE telling someone in a DOMAIN NAME FORUM

to do links and content for SEO

is a moron

ONE THING is the ruling force in SEO

REAL LONG TERM SEO

devellop a KEYWORD

now I make films, TVA films tried to buy me, and you want to talk about my crappy video work

shut up

you're a loser

get lost

next

---------- Post added at 01:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:05 PM ----------

I appreciate it @ grcorp I'll be honest with you....content per se ( unique or not) , has nothing to do with a site's ranking. ( in a way, this is in alignment with what adonivideo is saying)

number one thing the SE's algorithms look for

KEYWORD RELEVANCY

now anyone advising anyone to develop for SEO a major cpc term like toronto homes on anything but a keyword is doing the kid a dis-service

if you don't have a keyword for toronto RE terms

do not develop

all this crap the others are spewing is crap

end of subject

oh, last time I checked they have some nice KEYWORDS for sale here cheap

why don't you post in WANTED section

I need TORONTO RE terms

you will be amazed how cheap you can buy

now MORONS want to sit here and say bs about a video or my meta tags

SHUT UP LOSERS

you know NOTHING

go to wanted section

say I'm buying TORONTO RE TERMS

budget is 1K to ?

you will be AMAZED at what you get offered

all these losers saying do this and that are LOSERS

dude, I do this for a living

I'm a KNOWN SEO GOD

that's what I've been tagged in the media

THE GOD OF SEO

The guy SEO GURU's read

and this was way back in the 1990's

LOL

my advice then and now is the same

DEVELOP KEYWORDS

now I own a ton of companies, films, music, video, internet, etc

I do not promote them in any way

I use them for info for potential partners and investors

here' this is what I do

they come back and say

ok, impressive

and I let them download free the music we produce and the films and we give them a long list of client sites

we show them certified asset statements and long history of bank statements with tons of zero's on them

and yet losers want to come here and say, oh you need backlinks and content and this and that

dude

got say you got 1K+ to buy a keyword for toronton RE term

.ca and .com ONLY

when you see what people have

you say

wow, I got me a keyword

now do what google wants

what site do they own that cost them 5 billion?

yeah, that's what you need to do

put content on that

then put it on your keyword

then maybe a few pr3+ links from toronto related sites

bingo page 1 in 3 weeks

real rocket science stuff

LOL

go buy a keyword in WANTED section

I'm sure for 1K you can get way better than whatever you bought that you won't say you got

or if you got a toronton major keyword great

if not

put up a 1K+ WTB ad on the site

bingo, instant keywords for your geo fall out of the sky

now learn to do what google wants

bingo page one

MAYBE a few toronto relevant PR3+ links is all you will need IF you need any

list the site with local maps

start buying that cheap cpc for toronto RE terms

in a year the ppc rates for toronto will be 3 to 5 times more

if you want to think the crap others are spewing here is sound seo advice

fine

I'm done with this thread

I told you what to do

I'm not answering the bs put here by the clowns that got no money and no clients

 

[Aleksandar]

shut up
you're a loser
get lost
next

Come on man, you don't need to talk like that to her. Or to anyone else around here. Be nice, it's not that hard.

 

[fab]

Wow, a discussion on SEO turns into a boxing match!

 

[randomo]

Wow, a discussion on SEO turns into a boxing match!

More of a p***ing match, unfortunately (like too many threads).

 

[grcorp]

Wow, a discussion on SEO turns into a boxing match!

It sure did! Spun way out of control into something I didn't expect it to, for better or for worse.

However, I'm learning a lot about SEO. This thread ain't slowing down anytime soon - this could easily contain DNF's best concentration of SEO advice.

Truth is, most domainers don't know the first thing. Besides what I mentioned in my first posting, the same does (or did) apply to me.

 

[bwhhisc]

Here are some SEO ideas posted by a Japanese developer, who is developing international language domain names. These were posted on an IDN domainers forum; Japan has a huge internet market and big PPC rates. Yahoo is the #1 search engine in Japan currently. Maybe some helpful ideas here.

- update content at least once a week. Consider embedding some RSS feeds
(like youtube keyword search results or google news) to your website.

- create a squidoo lens for the website www.squidoo.com

- create a hubpage www.hubpages.com

- create a weebly site for your website www.weebly.com

- find relevant squidoo lenses and leave comments there, together with a link to your website.
As far as I know Squidoo doesn't put a no-follow tag on comments. Add value to the discussion, don't just spam.

- participate in google groups related to your topic, leave links to your website in your signature

- social bookmark your website with various social bookmarking websites like delicios.com( here is a huge list of social bookmarking websites together with their alexa rank: http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techbl...marking_sites/ )

-Add your website to various web directories (some are paid, some are free):
Business.com charges a $299 annual listing fee.
DMOZ - it may take a while to get your site listed.
Gimpsy - lists your site free if you are willing to wait 21 days.
GoGuides - provides free listings for editors.
JoeANT - provides free listings for editors (it is quick and easy to become an editor.)
Lycos Directory - European based directory.
Skaffe - provides free listings to editors.
Uncover the Net - has a lot of link popularity. $39 fee.
Web Beacon - provides free listings to editors.
Wow Directory - Offers free inclusion, paid inclusion, and sponsorship opportunities.
Yahoo- about $299 annual fee or free for non commercial websites.

 

[grcorp]

Here are some SEO ideas posted by a Japanese developer, who is developing international language domain names. These were posted on an IDN domainers forum; Japan has a huge internet market and big PPC rates. Yahoo is the #1 search engine in Japan currently. Maybe some helpful ideas here.

- update content at least once a week. Consider embedding some RSS feeds
(like youtube keyword search results or google news) to your website.

- create a squidoo lens for the website www.squidoo.com

- create a hubpage www.hubpages.com

- create a weebly site for your website www.weebly.com

- find relevant squidoo lenses and leave comments there, together with a link to your website.
As far as I know Squidoo doesn't put a no-follow tag on comments. Add value to the discussion, don't just spam.

- participate in google groups related to your topic, leave links to your website in your signature

- social bookmark your website with various social bookmarking websites like delicios.com( here is a huge list of social bookmarking websites together with their alexa rank: http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techbl...marking_sites/ )

-Add your website to various web directories (some are paid, some are free):
Business.com charges a $299 annual listing fee.
DMOZ - it may take a while to get your site listed.
Gimpsy - lists your site free if you are willing to wait 21 days.
GoGuides - provides free listings for editors.
JoeANT - provides free listings for editors (it is quick and easy to become an editor.)
Lycos Directory - European based directory.
Skaffe - provides free listings to editors.
Uncover the Net - has a lot of link popularity. $39 fee.
Web Beacon - provides free listings to editors.
Wow Directory - Offers free inclusion, paid inclusion, and sponsorship opportunities.
Yahoo- about $299 annual fee or free for non commercial websites.

I recall reading about these directories in the book "The Rich Jerk".

(btw, I strongly recommend it - it's what got me started making money online)

It's essentially backlink placement in places which rank high, which I recognize the value in.

You might notice on the "Advertising" tab of DNForum that they offer backlinks as a form of advertising - which I would assume is valuable because of the site's position on search engines.

 

[tigereye1]

Thanks! Really appreciate the advice.

Any words of caution WRT backlinks? For example, what makes one more valuable than others? Are there any backlinks which can hurt my ranking?

Try and focus on gaining backlinks from well established, reputable sites. Having a huge bunch of back links from not so genuine sites (or link farms/lots of paid links) can have the tendency to hurt your ranking in the eyes of search engines

 

[draggar]

Well, I had a nice little surprise the other day. I noticed one of my sites had a significant jump in traffic so I did some research - a lot of the traffic came from Google and a very (very relevant) keyword combinations.

I searched for the combination and my site came up #3 our of over 7 million results. Monthly search volume of about 3000 (this includes the singular and plural version).

How did I do it? Constant updates (the site is WP which is great for SEO). I try to add 1-2 posts a month, more when I have the time (not a lot of work). Some back links came in (I didn't promote for any).

 

[Tia Wood]

I try to add 1-2 posts a month, more when I have the time (not a lot of work). Some back links came in (I didn't promote for any).

That's a very important element. Some people don't even do that.