COLLAPSE OF the MOBI & IDN MARKETS -- the aftermath

[Gerry]

You need a life raft. The mobee ship is sinking. Front page of Pool has these deletions for tomorrow.

coupon.mobi
rates.mobi
visit.mobi
adults.mobi
concerts.mobi
prices.mobi
dvds.mobi

A couple of these look better than flowers.mobi. Not worth renewing.

Thanks for the tip.

I'll be looking at a couple of those.

But, I sure as hell will not be using pool to backorder.

 

[Fearless]

No, you do. Who brought up mobi? You.

I've asked you a direct question and you refuse to answer with anything. Instead you, again, redirect the spotlight towards something that hasn't been asked.

Eh, whatever.

Mobee is in the title of this thread. Doc Com sounded like he's thinking of jumping from one sinking ship to another. I don't like IDNs for the same reasons I don't like mobees. Very little if any traffic and what traffic you do get has little value. IDN also has a group of promoters that bought a bunch of IDNs that report every little thing that they think will add value to their bad investments, same as the mobee fanatics do. If IDN.IDN came out in 2000 it may have had a chance. Same for mobee.
There's your answer. Happy?

 

[Gerry]

Doc Com sounded like he's thinking of jumping from one sinking ship to another.

Rest ye weary head. Dare not fret over Doc Com.

As you may or may not know, Doc Com was in IDN for more than 4-5 years now (as noted in previous threads).

Yes, they get natural traffic, as well as many of me mobee. Spanish words are doing muy bueno.

Rest assured, I have done very well not listening to your advice.

Don't get me wrong...I appreciate the concern but I do not think it was from the heart...most likely a fart.

 

[Fearless]

Rest assured, I have done very well not listening to your advice.

If only those poor noobs on Namepros that maxed out their credit cards buying mobees had taken my advice. The mobee marketplace used to have top billing on Namepros. Now I can't even find a mobee section anywhere on the site.

mobee market parallels the tulip market from the 16th century and later the beanie baby market.

 

[Gerry]

If...

People will continue to make mistakes.

It's no big deal.

But those that think the internet is not about to change, well...they are about to be welcomed into a whole new world of internet evolution.

An person sitting is texas had no influence on stopping the release of mobee and can not stop the release of IDeaNers.

 

[Fearless]

Thanks for the tip.

I'll be looking at a couple of those.

But, I sure as hell will not be using pool to backorder.

Looks like Snapnames got all of them.

 

[Sarcle]

Mobee is in the title of this thread. Doc Com sounded like he's thinking of jumping from one sinking ship to another. I don't like IDNs for the same reasons I don't like mobees. Very little if any traffic and what traffic you do get has little value. IDN also has a group of promoters that bought a bunch of IDNs that report every little thing that they think will add value to their bad investments, same as the mobee fanatics do. If IDN.IDN came out in 2000 it may have had a chance. Same for mobee.
There's your answer. Happy?

Actually I am. I now understand your point of view.

There really is no point in dissecting your reasoning because everything you have posted has already been stated or dispproved in previous posts by others and we just keep going in circles.

But you still are comparing the ability for billions to use their own language to a single ext. There is no friggin' comparison. IDN encompasses most all extensions and so will IDN.IDN. So keep beating that dead horse arguement of yours.

We'll see soon enough when Russian IDN domains at the .ru registry go on sale for $300,000 USD each next year. Oh, there are already thousands pre-registered? Hm...

 

[Gerry]

I just get this warm, fuzzy feeling all over just knowing that people care about me.

Brings a tear to my eye.

 

[Fearless]

Actually I am. I now understand your point of view.

There really is no point in dissecting your reasoning because everything you have posted has already been stated or dispproved in previous posts by others and we just keep going in circles.

But you still are comparing the ability for billions to use their own language to a single ext. There is no friggin' comparison. IDN encompasses most all extensions and so will IDN.IDN. So keep beating that dead horse arguement of yours.

We'll see soon enough when Russian IDN domains at the .ru registry go on sale for $300,000 USD each next year. Oh, there are already thousands pre-registered? Hm...

One comparison I left out is the mobee like hype enabling domainers to sell worthless IDNs to each other. Right after the big IDN news broke this smart domainer took advantage of IDN exuberance and confusion. http://www.dnforum.com/f556/i-com-super-rare-idn-thread-386484.html

Although I doubt the $1,500 high bidder followed through with the purchase.

 

[Gerry]

One comparison I left out is the mobee like hype enabling domainers to sell worthless IDNs to each other. Right after the big IDN news broke this smart domainer took advantage of IDN exuberance and confusion. http://www.dnforum.com/f556/i-com-super-rare-idn-thread-386484.html

Although I doubt the $1,500 high bidder followed through with the purchase.

You post an example of an IDN (scam)

Seems the forum is littered with scams on all extensions and bad blood among members with deals gone sour.

 

[Sarcle]

You post an example of an IDN (scam)

Seems the forum is littered with scams on all extensions and bad blood among members with deals gone sour.

Correction: Domain scam. Period. Happens in Ascii as well. Here we go again though. More circles.

 

[Fearless]

You post an example of an IDN (scam)

How is that auction a scam? He was clearly selling xn--owa.com. Very heavy hype but but no scam.

There were 9 bids before someone asked what country used that character.
That was blind IDN exuberance fueled by hype.

 

[Sarcle]

That was blind IDN exuberance fueled by hype.

How is that different with ASCII.com? You see a geo domain name sell and the next day there are tons of shit geo domains being touted as the NEXT big thing and domainers buying them all up.

Circles, circles, circles......

 

[Gerry]

How is that auction a scam? He was clearly selling xn--owa.com.

Yup, I did not see the count.

I do recall there was quite a bit of confusion on that auction. There was more than one thread running simultaneously for the same name. One auction was someone BIN for $15K (I think) that someone purchased and later found out it was an IDN.

I posted in a thread (most likely removed now) asking why was the thread still running when it had been sold per BIN.

Another example why members/mods need to close threads. If I recall correctly, there were three threads running at the same time regarding the same domain.

 

[Fearless]

How is that different with ASCII.com?

The difference is 99.99% (close estimation) of post registration sales of IDNs and mobees go from one domainer to another. The values are driven only by speculation.
That's not the case for ASCII.coms.

 

[dn-101]

As a newbie I bought tons of sh!t from the folks who later grabbed control of the idn forum. I call'em The Hydra. Neither one of them feels guilty unloading that stuff on me and other newbies. :smilewinkgrin:

 

[Sarcle]

The difference is 99.99% (close estimation) of post registration sales of IDNs and mobees go from one domainer to another. The values are driven only by speculation.
That's not the case for ASCII.coms.

It's exactly the case for ASCII.coms. The majority of domains go to who? Domainers. The only ASCII domains that have true "million dollar values" were registered over a decade ago. The rest is just speculation as to what "might" sell. If it weren't the case, then there would be no such thing as a "bubble" in this industry.

As a newbie I bought tons of sh!t from the folks who later grabbed control of the idn forum. I call'em The Hydra. Neither one of them feels guilty unloading that stuff on me and other newbies. :smilewinkgrin:

Hey dn-101 shhh.. Grown-ups are talking now.

 

[Gerry]

Hmm, I too see circles.

Perhaps the obvious and best thing to do is cancel IDN rollout because we English speakers object to it.

We do not want competition in how the internet is used nor do we want an erosion in traffic to English word.com and .net

As for Mobee, would someone please turn the lights out?

 

[Sarcle]

We do not want competition in how the internet is used nor do we want an erosion in traffic to English word.com and .net

That's exactly what this is.

 

[Gerry]

If I did not own a single IDN, that would still not change these statistics on most common languages:

1. Chinese (1.1 billion)
2. Hindi (360 million)
3. Spanish (340 million)
4. English (322 million)
5. Arabic (206 million)
6. Bengali (180 million)
7. Portuguese (180 million)
8. Russian (167 million)
9. Japanese (127 million)
10. German (95 million)