stuff said:
Well all sites provide sitemaps......its nothing new and I have seen thousands of sites getting high SE ranks who are doing it same or even more
In fact I have seen DNF's parking sites just do the same thing that GK did. Are all those domains banned from SEs? I don't think so.
Plus did domainers submit their sites to SEs. .... NO
So if SEs ban domainers sites by flexing their muscles, there may be some legal implications of that involving lawsuits in to billions of dollars of losses.
I don't think SE just go about banning sites based on just 1 or 2 criteria. One must be totally idiot to do a series of things "on purpose" to get banned.
SEs are much more smarter than what we all think....those people are best of the best that work at SEs. They probably have a site banning criteria written right in to their algorithm based on a series of checks.
Thanks,
Rick
Stocdoctor said:
If I can Rick.
I agree with a lot of the comments by Adam and others in this thread
http://www.dnforum.com/thread103465--Gold+key.html
It appears that Goldkey earns revenue only thru Yahoo/Overture. Google and MSN do spider the sites, but appear to penalize them for the system and lack of content. That is reflected in the extremely low visitor count in the Goldkey stats by those two engines. Lately it also looks like Yahoo itself is having a problem with the system because visitors and clicks have dropped off to maybe 4% of what they were the week prior in samples taken. The system has been taken down by the administrators and new restrictions put in place on one of their main methods of click revenue, and that looks like it can only be due to Yahoo's reeling them in. With nothing in these sites that benefit Google or MSN (no content and no ad revenue) and only a negative response by surfers using their search if they index or rank these sites, banning them because they are obviously created only as lead in pages to yahoo ads is very possible. That's what worries me.
I'd love to see Goldkey work out, it would be my gain right along with them, even without Google or MSN etc. If they do, I'm right there with them. But unless it becomes obvious that Yahoo is also with them in this venture and everything is cool, it looks like it could be a big risk in their vehicle going towards a cliff, careening off, and leaving us scratching back at the edge with a hand out to Google to help pull us back up. At that point we might see Google standing there with a sign saying "Sorry, you screwed up, Banned!" :emba:
Doc
With all due respect, I disagree with you that you agree with some of the comments by some people.
In fact the people who try to preach 'right vs wrong' are doing many wrongs.....I won't post it here but registering TMs (plus how they are doing it- tricks/cheating), spamming SEs, bad-mouthing other services out of jealousy, etc etc. I can open volumes on these so called leaders of domainers, but again I won't as I want to see us all progress and not fight.
Some of these people are supposed to be helping the domainers but they are infact hurting us all and it is in fact more than evident from the 'smell of jealousy' coming out of their posts.
Also I think all PPC services are in fact against the logic of all SEs anyway, but all of them associate with one or the another so PPC is a legitimate and valid source of helping the customers find what they want quickly.
I do however agree withrest of your statements and views.
Just got carried away a bit....you know :wink:
Thanks.