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If you go to http://www.erealestate.com, the site of the DomainKing :rolleyes: you will read the logic of why this person believes that dotcom domains are as precious as rare diamonds and will over time become rarer and more valuable.

Obviously, he didn't see nor expect the introduction of new, better extensions, at least not so fast.

I've seen resellers desperately reducing their prices from 100k to 1k in a span of less than 1 year.

Is this the sign of the times? Is dotcom reselling more pain than gain? Is dotcom reselling, now a beached whale?
 

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Sorry mole, but no matter how many times you try to convince people that dotcom is dead - it is far and away the strongest tld to own domains within.

Domain sales in .com are still strong, there is simply no comparison in terms of values and volumes of sales in any other tld.
 

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Originally posted by safesys
Sorry mole, but no matter how many times you try to convince people that dotcom is dead - it is far and away the strongest tld to own domains within.

Domain sales in .com are still strong, there is simply no comparison in terms of values and volumes of sales in any other tld.

I'm not saying that dotcom is dead. What I am pointing to is that people valued the dotcom extension too highly, and continue to value it too highly.

How much more evidence does a person need before he/she wakes up and find that he/she is sitting on a portfolio that can't even bring in the next month's rent?

Its okay to say dotcom currently brings in my supper and feeds my family and therefore more valuable as a revenue generator. What I disagree, is the persistent motherhood inferrence by dotocm speculators that the new gTLDs .info and .biz are deficient or not equal to .com. You can see the trees, but can you really see the forest?
 

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Surely they are deficient if they don't bring in the same revenues from usage/speculation?

The new tld's are unproven, and I have yet to see a solid reasoned argument as to why the worlds most influential players who already own their prized .coms would change to one of the new tld's. Without that change there is no halo. Without that halo, they will be deficient.

Or can you give an evidenced and reasoned argument to support your alternative wish?
 

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Originally posted by safesys
Or can you give an evidenced and reasoned argument to support your alternative wish?

Yes. Which is more meaningful as an internet address for information-driven specialist sites?

.com

or

.info ?

Geesh, I don't believe I am even defending this.
 

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I can't believe you're defending it either!

The question that you're not answering is "why will they change from .com to .anythingelse?" - having a tld thats an abbreviation is not a reason when there is already a halo and very big nucleus in .com
 

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Originally posted by safesys
I can't believe you're defending it either!

The question that you're not answering is "why will they change from .com to .anythingelse?" - having a tld thats an abbreviation is not a reason when there is already a halo and very big nucleus in .com

Answer :-

1. Because of a much better name before the dot acquired for only $8.88

2. Because this is a new online business without an existing web site.

3. Because you want to project an image that is differentiated from the dotcom riffraff.


Let's agree to disagree. Some like Venus, others like Mars. Some people can't see the future. Others, just ignore the future ;)
 

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"dotcom riffraff" lol

Of course there have been many failures in .com - this is the main namespace! Its like saying more companies have closed in America therefore all american businesses are bad. Its a nonsensical argument.

.com is also the home of the successes too, but you always seem to ignore that.
 
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My reasoning safesys, about why big business would adapt .info, is because of the lower level success it will see. Business doesn't care what it uses as long as it is successful.

I believe the early successes will not come from established .coms. It will come from risktakers and new businesses. When the .commers see the typeinness of info and how .info becomes a part of the domain name itslef and becomes the most clickable extension, they will make a run for it.

That is my theory but i cant prove it. Its just a reasoning and is dependent on .info being as rememberable and sensible as I believe it is.

But i agree, it wont be big buisness by and large that initially embraces info. Imo, it will be the public that does and business will follow - maybe not completely but I believe there is a lot of good for business in that extension.

Again nothing proven, just some ideas and reasoning.
 

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The most clickable extension? C'mon.

Businesses don't care what they have? Some don't, but most care very deeply. To the degree that there's an upside to a particular company having a .com, they'll do it. If not, they'll take .fm or something. My email service is a dot fm, and apparently they don't care. But I know for certain that they're losing TONS of mislaid traffic when people type in the .com in their email headers instead of the .com...

Back to your original opener, which is that .com has plummeted. This has nothing to do the extension, but the overall climate. The boom is over, money isn't pouring into the dot com world anymore, we all know the story. That's the real reason the .com isn't selling the way it used to. But as I've mentioned before, names with traffic have absolute staying power at a modified level. In fact, their value is getting almost formulaic.
 

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Am I right in thinking tee that you are referring to a 2 tier system - whereby the big players use .com and the smaller upstarts use .info because .com's are not within their budget?

If so, that makes sense and it's healthy for both tld's.

I've always welcomed new tld's because if they are using one of my domains in .info etc and become successful I just know that at some point they will come knocking on my door for the .com
 
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Yes, this is a part of what I'm saying safesys. The other part of it is why would a business give up something that works? It would be stupid and illogical to do that. The only way that happens is if info proves itself in a big way. Its got to make a case for itself. It has to work with the people who buy things. It must be very consumer friendly. Now, not to be ridiculously repetitive, but i believe info to have innate strengths that may give it certain advantages. Mainly, its an established abbreviation/word that is probably the most known and understood abbreviation/word in the world. Its used in a few languages. People have lived with this from birth throughout the ages. .Com is relatively new. Info makes a lot of sense on the internet. .Info is the internet. .Com may have the brand - but the content and drive is all about information. Information is extremely valuable. The internet is the information superhighway.

The second part is yes, info will be cheaper and more available than .coms. So it will be easier and cheaper to get an info therefor further increasing the likelyhood of use. I believe it has magic but it must be used for it to work. The scarcity and cost of .com will be what helps info. The reaons info gets used say more than .net or another extension I have explained before.

There were a lot of lessons hopefully learned in the big .com bust - another association .com has - even though it was a more a cylical economic event - .com just got burned as representing high flying greed and worthless stocks - and the main lesson is - be intelligent with your business model, speculations and deals.

Greed kills. My point is, the new speculator wants to make things happen. He knows something is much better than nothing. He also knows nothing lasts forever. He will do what it takes to sell. He will even sell low to make the deal. This will benefit everybody involved.

Key to all this is consumer acceptance. If business sees info sites selling and working as well as or similar to .com, it will have exaggerated impact. It will show that if info can work in a .com world, than info must have some serious juice working for it (mainly like logic and relevance for the medium.)

You see, if a few small businesses or even hobby sites can have success with info in a .com world, the logic with the .commers will be, god what if we put a few hundred thousand dollars behind one? And if they do and it works, which i think it could, its all over poppy! (lol) Just kidding. But obviously it would benefit .info in every way. It doesn't mean info will replace .com. That will never happen. But it will be used and have value and in some cases maybe even a lot more value than .com.

I think however, the stolen names need to be released for info to make its full impact and then in six months we should see some info sites with next year being the year of info, barring the end of the world or something (lol).
 

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Dot this Dot That,

It's all a matter of money, how many .info's are there on the search engines, Huh!

How do i get to be a wonderful member.

darn it, i just wanted to get into .biz class.

:)
 
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To be a wonderful member you need to be wonderful. Its very difficult. I wish you well.
 

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Domain King is .. Wonderful !

Suckin up here, just in case.

:)
 

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Originally posted by safesys
"dotcom riffraff" lol

Of course there have been many failures in .com - this is the main .com is also the home of the successes too, but you always seem to ignore that.

Sure. I recognise that .com was the only domain available for businesses that made sense at a time when internet addressing was "take it or leave it"

If you base your whole business premise on history, on the past, then I can only wish you well.

Welcome to the new economy, where the past is seen as a liability. Where loyalty and emotions to the old, is seen as a weakness.

I actually bought into the argument a few years ago that .com was and will be the most prized extension because it represented heritage.

Today, I can see that is nothing more than a fallacy created by people to protect their own self-interest, domain industry or any other industry.

Dotcom riffraff, yes safesys. You know that, I know that. Truth hurts, and factual evidence hurts.
 

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What factual evidence is this mole?

All I can see are the vast majority of mainstream corporates using .com

I guess they have yet to be influenced by your mantra.
 

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Safesys,

I give up. Obviously, you don't acknowledge the dotcom bust. It's okay to have blinders on, that not my problem.

Let the market tell you why dotcom of before is bust, and why you can't sell 25 3 letter .com names for more than $5k.
 

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