closed Need appraisal on Guns.com

[izopod]

Originally posted by joe
the gun is here for too long, i am scared///

It's official this thread is now a 10/10 :laugh:

izopod

 

[prasit]

Originally posted by fizz


Nice work prasit

Thank you. Someone said the name would be worth 7 figures, but I'd rather grab the 6 figures now. And, sorry I can't tell the domain name.

PS: I still piss at Greatdomains for its stupid appraisal.

 

[Fearless]

Success!

 

[joe]

20/20

 

[fizz]

Originally posted by prasit
PS: I still piss at Greatdomains for its stupid appraisal.

Hehe, most appraisals are usually on the high side. In the early days they gave you a GD t-shirt with each appraisal. I ordered one back then and still have the shirt, but can't remember where the document is, lol

 

Originally posted by prasit


Thank you. Someone said the name would be worth 7 figures, but I'd rather grab the 6 figures now. And, sorry I can't tell the domain name.

PS: I still piss at Greatdomains for its stupid appraisal.

This is what happens when a domain isn't sufficiently researched. A true appraisal requires rigourous evaluation of both the name's qualities (keyterm rating), and, if it is an industry-specific name, the market to which it applies (market size, number of vendors, degree of associated web-commerce, etc).

The vast majority of domain names are given "over-appraisals," but some of them, as in your case, are given under-appraisals due to poor or non-existant research. A true appraisal requires 3-6 hours of work.

(Note: this only applies to true keyterm domains.)

Miles

 

[Tee]

I would sell now and not hold. The internet is changing, there are more choices now. We may not even be using domain names (urls) in less than a decades time. The value is dropping not rising.

This is a great domain name that has it all. .Com, plural generic that works, slight image problem (?) which can totally be made a plus - notoriety sells!

If I had to pull a number out of my *** I would say $250,000 ideally but $100,000 would be totally acceptable. This is not wine. The longer you hold, the more it devalues. Recoveries are never guaranteed. And no recovery will make .com a high flyin irresponsible mess it was.

Great name, top quality. Just don't get greedy.

You can certainly have a nice life with 100k.

Good luck!

 

[domainicanicanica]

Great name! Probably 350-400K right now, over $1M within 5 years.

By the way, how did you get hold of it? This forum would love to know any kind of techniques you could share.

 

[alldig]

realistically high 5 figures (70k-100k range)

 

[izopod]

Originally posted by Tee
We may not even be using domain names (urls) in less than a decades time. The value is dropping not rising.

We will still have domain names into the foreseeable future IMHO. Just as we have been using phone #'s for over 6 decades, instead of an alternative. It's in our nature to think we will finally realize our true potential technologically speaking, but with costs nowadays being so high for "risky" ventures--the thought goes, if it ain't broken don't fix it. It's why microsoft keeps adding lines of code to their OS, insteading of scrapping it every 5 years for a "better OS". It's why we had the y2k problem (the programmers in the 60's thought we'd be onto new things--save money). It's why weren't "flying around in saucers" on 1/1/2000.

My guess is they will enhance domain names instead of scrapping the system. They enhanced placing phone calls by having "speed dial, etc". Enhancing domain names could be trickier but I am betting on us have voice capabilities (after you've entered a web site). Much like you do now with calling your credit card company to check your balance. You dial a #, then use voice activated features of their system to navigate their menu.

just my .02

izopod

 

[Tee]

Good point Izopod - and I really hope what you say is true

however, with more choices come less of a hostage situation which is the ultimate money making situation......

Like when you have a few poland springs on a beach - you could charge up to 10 or $20 for a bottle if you wanted because you have the supply.

Granted, the .com is high quality with the traffic and all but when you have others, you are losing the hostage market and hostages make for the really high catches.....

Mant feel that urls will not last even 5 years...

However, I hope you are right and even if you are I say max $250,000 now with $100,000 being the low range.

I think it drops next to nothing the longer he holds......

Its guns......

hopefully you are right......

 

[morel]

I'm not sure I understand some of these low appraisals that hover around $100k. If you can consistently make $50k/year (as Melvista claims), it would be ridiculous to sell it for $100k. I have heard on this board (from DnP I think, who is among the few people here that buys these kinds of names), that a type-in name sells for about 4-5 years of its worth in traffic.

So that would put the value of guns.com at $200k-$250k on traffic alone. And I think that Melvista could do a better job monetizing his traffic -- the site itself isn't very impressive.

 

Originally posted by joe
the gun is here for too long, i am scared///

Joe: You cracked me-up...!
I needed to come back before this post reaches 1000
I found some interesting data:
yahoo.com 7 links for guns.com none to the actual site
overture.com; bid tool for "guns" highest 20 cents (4 bidders)
bid for "jeans" highest over 50 cents about 20 bidders (8 of them 50 cents or higher)
google.com searched for guns: surprise nobody other than ebay is pay for postioning?.... ebays sells paint ball-guns.
YES it will be stupido of me to say this is not a great game ...I feel that the controversial theme and the timing are not good..
I raise my appraisal to 25000 low end 50000 high end...

cheers.......

 

[Tee]

Yeah , true, but that is assuming that 3-5 years from now the traffic remains the same.......

Which is the unknown.

However, I'm sure this is based on those who deal with "certain names" ie; porn names.

This is guns, which can't be used universally. Its illegal in some states. It has baggage big time. Which is not a bad thing per se.

However, it limits pure value.


This is a vanity sale all the way.

Hold and burn.

Sell and earn


Good luck. Prove me wrong but good luck with that!!!

 

[Tee]

If you are making $50 k a yaer.

You should not sell!!!!!!!

Don't be a dickhead.

You can make much more if you are at $50 k now.

I would like proof of that. I would be shocked if this name made a 1/20th of that but proof doesn't lie.

You making 50k a year?

Dont sell.

 

[Tee]

Don't get me wrong - its a beautiful name that deserves a full value sale.......

 

[Tee]

How are you making 50k a year or even a decade with this name?

Show me the checks or even the affiliate programs.

Commision junction?

Who/where?

If you can't, no prob.


Show me $1,000 a month and I will help you if I can.

Show me $100.


Sincerely,
Tee

 

[prasit]

Originally posted by Namethink


The vast majority of domain names are given "over-appraisals," but some of them, as in your case, are given under-appraisals due to poor or non-existant research. A true appraisal requires 3-6 hours of work.

(Note: this only applies to true keyterm domains.)

Miles

The reason I get GD to evaluate my name because I wanted to list it under GD's gold club (showcase). My domain was better than 90% of those listed in GD's showcase.

I thought they just didn't want my name to list in the showcase for some reasons. BTW, I got 2,000 type-ins per day.

Not all generic domain names have type-ins traffice though, e.g. pay.com had only 30 type-ins per day. got my point?

 

[Tee]

What matters is conversions

not typeins-----

However typeins matter to those wo think they can affect conversions..........


Not the same thing at all

I have a name that gets 10 hits a day and 3 sales a day

killer conversion that some couldn't reach with 5,000 hits a day (what a waste!!!!!)


Typeins is raw data that means nothing without conversions data - the king of data!

 

[joe]

u shot the gun now!

Hot Tee!